LeatherWerks Report post Posted April 27, 2013 Found a 29K Singer that I can get for a really good price. The problem is that it's just the head, no table or foot peddle to run the machine like I've seen on other 29K machines. Will the machine still work without the table or would it be a real pain to operate? Thanks, Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer Report post Posted April 27, 2013 You can hand crank it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 27, 2013 If you hand crank the wheel, you'll only have your left hand to guide the work and turn the presser foot. A third hand would be helpful to spin the wheel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted April 27, 2013 I always hand crank my 29K, it has a motor but I never use it. You can mount the machine on the end of your work table with the arm sticking out. You can also change the position of the hand wheel from back to the front or the other way around. Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeatherWerks Report post Posted April 27, 2013 Okay, sounds like it's workable but not the best situation. If this machine works well and the person will part with it for 200.00 or so, I'll make the deal Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greenwood Report post Posted April 27, 2013 Hi Steve Like Trox I use the hand crank. I motorized my 29K60 by mounting a Dayton DC gear motor on the back of the unit. I fashioned a foot control pedal from a domestic Singer machine works fine it sews about 50-60 SPM at full throttle. Plenty fast for patching. I actually prefer the hand crank. I mounted the machine on a typewriter table, the kind that has retractable wheels so you can move around and move back for storage. These may be hard to find in the internet age. Dayton gear motors are not cheap, Check the web for prices. You may wish to consider getting a 1 amp motor and electronic pedal control from Cowboy Bob for about $100.00. This is the setup I have for my 31-20, works like a charm. I'm sure one could adapt a servo motor for about $150. There was no such thing as a servo-motor when I made the conversion, in hind sight thats the way I would go. Powerful and quiet. There are probably many other options, folks here are innovative and solve problems w/o breaking the bank. Good Luck Leo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeatherWerks Report post Posted April 28, 2013 Okay, I bought this machine, Gave $200.00 for it. It seems to work okay but I haven't actually sewn anything yet. It is missing the rod that pushes the thread from the top down to the needle. I don't know what I could find to get the thread down to the needle, any suggestions? Also, does anyone actually make/have parts for these machines? I guess that's a slim chance since this machine was built in 1927. Anyway, thanks to all that responded to this thread, I appreciate the help. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken G Report post Posted April 28, 2013 Nice find. The bases do occasionally show up for sale on Ebay. There are currently two listed now. If you happen to be located in southeast Missouri there is one listed in western Kentucky. The shipping may not be too hateful if you can buy it right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 29, 2013 Okay, I bought this machine, Gave $200.00 for it. It seems to work okay but I haven't actually sewn anything yet. It is missing the rod that pushes the thread from the top down to the needle. I don't know what I could find to get the thread down to the needle, any suggestions? Also, does anyone actually make/have parts for these machines? I guess that's a slim chance since this machine was built in 1927. Anyway, thanks to all that responded to this thread, I appreciate the help. Steve You can buy the threading rod and all the replacement parts you need from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeatherWerks Report post Posted April 30, 2013 Okay, I called Bob Kovar at Toledo Sewing Machine and he had all the parts that I needed or just wanted to replace. Extra bobbins, a new foot, threading rod, needles and or course some thread. Prices we really reasonable. If anyone needs 29K parts, Toledo Sewing Machine is the place to go. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billymac814 Report post Posted May 1, 2013 That's an older one without the removeable horn piece or whatever its called. I had a 29k-51 like that, the only problems with those is if the lower gears go out there are no parts for them. I now have a total of 4 patchers, the best being the Claes, second best is a Adler long arm and a singer 29k-58(for sale) and a 29-4 as decoration. I talked with bob about motorizing my Adler and the cheaper option was the 1 amp motor but he said it lacks power to punch through a lot of stuff so you need to get it started with the handwheel, after that it should go just fine. I ended up going with a table and servo and speed reducer, it was about 400 bucks all together. About half of my business is repair work so I spend a lot of time at a patcher, I would never be without one. I did switch my Claes over to the powered stand and put the Adler back on its treadle. I have a European gear reduction motor that I got with my Claes, I'm going to try it out on one of them at some point, I was told they are very good motors but I haven't messed with it yet. You probably did ok with the price, I sold my 51 for around 350.00 with the treadle and all, it had just been serviced by a local guy so it was sound. The treadle alone is probably 100-150 so you're right in that range if it works good. There are manuals online as well, I think Shoe systems plus has them on their site for download. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites