entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 I know I have seen a terminal kot in the style of a spanish ring rather than the more traditional turks head style, anyone know where I can find that info. Been through all my books with no luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucksnort Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Entiendo, It would be the same knot(4 strand ring knot) that Grant shows for securing rein knots. I don't have the book here with me, so I don't know the page. There is a post by lightningad Mar 2012 called finishing a braid that links to a utube video showing a 4 stannd ring knot. hope this helps, Buck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 I wasn't able to follow the directions completely in grants book, I will look up this thread, thank you very much! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Here are some photos of doing a 4 strand ring knot by pushing 2 strands through something. You can cut it off after you are done for a terminal http://www.flickr.com/photos/casa-megabit/sets/72157626253787004/ I think you can also use the same basic knot with the 4 strands of your braid and get a ring knot by making another pass around. If that makes sense? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Yes, I am sure you can, but I am having a hard time following cause I'm not using it as 4 string ring knot, rather a terminal knot. I have Enriquies book as well, and he shows you how but I need another reference cause he doesn't show all the angles. I get the downward and upward "spur" knot done and then I get lost. Same with knothead's directions...I get lost. I can't visualize the knot for some reason! Edited July 24, 2013 by entiendo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 24, 2013 I guess I am not clear on what you are trying to do? How many strands? If you do a normal terminal knot and just do another pass it comes out as a terminal ring knot, that is what I thought you were looking for. If you braid a little past and then do the push through 4 strand ring knot and cut it off flush with the knot you end up with more or less the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 (edited) Yes a terminal ring knot! Your directions are unclear to me though. 4 strands I do not want to cut off the 4 strings though. Edited July 24, 2013 by entiendo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Ok, I'll see if I can't do up one with some cell phone pictures during my lunch. I know what you mean about just not getting it sometimes. I think once the light bulb clicks on you will be like "hey that's not so hard". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Yeah, Enrique calls it a "simple" button, and I'm feeling a little inadequate about now. I thought I had reached the stage where some directions and instinct would carry me...but so far it's not really working for me. LOL thanks Megabit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Ok, I think I have it mostly, but I messed up at the end of step 4 in Enrique's book, page 64-65. As you can see I ended up with a parallel. I was having a tough time trying to figure out where to put that last string on step 4 so I am assuming that is where the mistake came from. The rest looks like a Spanish ring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 24, 2013 As you can see I ended up with a parallel. Nope I can't see (no picture attached), but I believe you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 24, 2013 These didn't turn out very good but maybe they will help. moto_0014.jpg by ss1442, on Flickr moto_0018.jpg by ss1442, on Flickr moto_0019.jpg by ss1442, on Flickr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 Ha ha, you are right no picture...darn thing...anyway it looked OK except that it had a pararelle. have your pictures and Enrique's book in front of me of another try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 24, 2013 all the knots I know how to do and I can't figure this one out!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 25, 2013 How about this, I can do it every time with a piece of rope. I cannot get it at all with my leather, it has to be how the leather lays. I would appreciate any help. I have been at it for hours, I just can't get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 25, 2013 Well I finally figured it out and AFTER I tied my first one on leather this video was sent to me. Maybe it will help someone else in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucksnort Report post Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) That's the great & sad thing about this site, we all get to learn from your problems. Glad you got it figured out. Buck Edited July 25, 2013 by bucksnort Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Ok, so where is the picture of your's in leather? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Well it was to big so I did gauch knots with 1/16" string. So all that trouble and I didn't use it, but at least I learned a new knot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
megabit Report post Posted July 26, 2013 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: See how you are! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
entiendo Report post Posted July 26, 2013 Well i didn't take a picture of the finished ROUND knot, but I swear did get it!! LOL...But if you have facebook you can see what I ended up using instead. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=554514821250641&set=a.551255361576587.1073741825.113553735346754&type=1&theater Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
