Tools Of A Swiss Sattler

[bruce johnson]

Tor, I finally got several Dixons at one time and cleared the waiting list for them. I have a top lever adjust on my website and also one that adjusts with the long screw mechanism. Those are pretty rare and a delight to use. Wait until you guys see what I just cleaned up - yes, from England. I need to do a little more on the knife and will have pictures tomorrow.

[bruce johnson]

Here are a couple I need some help with makers, and the plough gauge mentioned previously. The knife is one I have had for a while and is on my bench in use. I need help with the maker - I haven't seen a Mayer-Flamery with the hammer mark before. Is it one of theirs? The plough has only the tassel or bell marking on it. It is a nice smooth working one, just not sure who might have made it. Finally the plough gauge mentioned above. I still have some work to do on it, but here it is just about there. The shoe and guide block is gun metal. The fence and beam are steel. The top adjust and the binding nut for the roller are ornate brass. This is the prettiest English made one I have seen yet. It is marked "1897 A Butler London Warranted" on the shoe and the knife is marked "A Butler". Interestingly the knife is marked on the right side of the blade. I can't recall any others I have seen marked anywhere but the left side.

[walter roth]

Hi Bruce

The Tassel is a German brand Tool.

I do not know the name, but these tools were sold by various dealers Swiss.

They have always described it in the Catalogs as a German brand, which was offered as an alternative to the expensive Tools Blanchard.

Just as with the horse (or Rössler Melzer and Feller) and 3-4 other brands from Germany.

Unfortunately, I no longer have this Catalog, he was of the firm "Lüscher and Stengelin Cuirs" in Bern.

And the Company Buttler and Sons, I have tools. The company was established in the "Wallsall" the leather center from England.

The company had 30 years yet, but tools they acted back then no more. They had their office a few hundred meters away from Dixon.

And ganu so I must go have a Plough, which I really like.

greeting

Walter

[Trox]

Gate .....

I'm looking at a photo of a "Nähkloben" as it is called in Swiss German long which.

The wood part or the sewing pincer. you used to sew the thing really ....?

I've thrown away all those things, they are useless.

What you sewing your work ....?

I use the Swiss bdazu "Nährössli" ​​so the sewing horse.

Thus, the part looks http://www.bernhardw.../eb690a48df.jpg ...... where I have all my harnesses sewn.

greeting

The new Dixon are my poorly made, the Barnsley I like, but only the very old.

I had a very nice from England who was here once, should have bought it.

Everything from Gunnmetal ....

Well, someday I'll find one.

For practical purposes, I think better get updated very often Plough as that of Blanchard and Related Models.

They are also better than the models from England.

Always provided that the knives are properly sharpened,

that is, on the right side plane, and the inner side obliquely outwards

Greetings

Walter

Hello Walter,

I use sewing machines of course, currently I have nine machine but only uses four of them. Some are for sale and for backup. I use a Juki 441 clone with Efka 1550 DC position motor for the heavy stuff. It capable to sew up to 22 mm. of material (I have never tried, I do not sew that thick material). I am not finished setting up this machine yet (I am using it), i am building on a air foot lift and a needle cooler system. ( I have the parts, I only need some time. I do not have much of it).

For medium and fine materials I use a Dürkopp Adler 267-373 flat bed with Efka DC 1600 and a Pfaff 345 H3 cylinder bed with Cobra servo and a speed reducer. I also use a long arm Singer 29K-72 for repair work and difficult seams, it has a clutch motor but I always hand crank it.

Machines for backup and sale:

Kochs Adler class 5-27 cyl. bed, bottom feed, jump foot, clutch with speed reducer and electronic speed limiter. In mint condition and full saddler's attachments pack.

Adler 105-25 top and bottom feed cyl. bed with new 4 pole 600 W clutch and speed reducer and new table.

Adler 204-64 bottom and needle feed with Efka variostop three phase motor.

Singer 236W-100 top and bottom roller feed post bed clutch motor.

Adler cl. 30-15 short arm small bobbin, black color shoe repair machine on treadle.

And for sale for a friend complete shoe maker repair shop Hardo, Membus finisher bench etc. all machines. Two sewing machines: Pfaff top, bottom roller and needle feed with Efka variostop and a very good Adler long arm class 30, gray green color with 12 volts dc motor and treadle (perfect condition)

All machines are ready to sew and set up for leather work, except the 105 who is not ready yet. I like do work with sewing machine and have mechanical education and back ground. Its kind of a hobby to me to refurbish machines, you mostly find me in the sewing machine forum.

Here is some of the machines, I then have a skiving machine and a clicker. The rest are bench machines.

Thanks

Tor

[Trox]

Here are a couple I need some help with makers, and the plough gauge mentioned previously. The knife is one I have had for a while and is on my bench in use. I need help with the maker - I haven't seen a Mayer-Flamery with the hammer mark before. Is it one of theirs? The plough has only the tassel or bell marking on it. It is a nice smooth working one, just not sure who might have made it. Finally the plough gauge mentioned above. I still have some work to do on it, but here it is just about there. The shoe and guide block is gun metal. The fence and beam are steel. The top adjust and the binding nut for the roller are ornate brass. This is the prettiest English made one I have seen yet. It is marked "1897 A Butler London Warranted" on the shoe and the knife is marked "A Butler". Interestingly the knife is marked on the right side of the blade. I can't recall any others I have seen marked anywhere but the left side.

Hi Bruce, Thats very nice stuff

Here are a couple I need some help with makers, and the plough gauge mentioned previously. The knife is one I have had for a while and is on my bench in use. I need help with the maker - I haven't seen a Mayer-Flamery with the hammer mark before. Is it one of theirs? The plough has only the tassel or bell marking on it. It is a nice smooth working one, just not sure who might have made it. Finally the plough gauge mentioned above. I still have some work to do on it, but here it is just about there. The shoe and guide block is gun metal. The fence and beam are steel. The top adjust and the binding nut for the roller are ornate brass. This is the prettiest English made one I have seen yet. It is marked "1897 A Butler London Warranted" on the shoe and the knife is marked "A Butler". Interestingly the knife is marked on the right side of the blade. I can't recall any others I have seen marked anywhere but the left side.

Hi Bruce, very beautiful plough, I have never seen any ploughs from Butler before. However, I too know the maker, he is listed in the Dictionary of leather tools too.

The cornet knife must be a German Melzer and Feller, "Rossler" as Walter call him. As Walter already mention above.

You can see this is a German Solingen style knife by the shape of the big blade, ferule and handle. Walter knows the tassel to be German, now I remember where I have seen it before.

http://leatherworker...pic=45729&st=15

Remember this thread? look at post # 27 you see both a plough with the tassel and the horse shoe brand.

We never got an answer from him about the makers of these, Walter you know them. They are both German then.

Bruce I have to thank you once again for sending me the two eight " splitter blades for free, you are the best. Thank you very much, I have to shop some akevitt to you.

I am exited to see that tassel plough too, I hope you will post it here.

Have a nice day

Tor

Edited August 7, 2013 by Trox

[walter roth]

HalloTor ...

So you have more machines as I ......

I myself have only one sewing machine, one AQdkler class 5-8 is about 60 years old.

I sew everything by hand. Only the sky în the coach-concealing I sew with the machine and of course the leather tops himself.

But your Yuki is safe ne good machine that Yuki's here now have a good reputation.

What is the cost to the Yuki 3-way transportation, because I might have a buyer for you.

greeting

Walter

Edited August 8, 2013 by walter roth

[walter roth]

Hi Bruce................

Which manufacturer of the star in the hoof is, I do not know, I saw the sign only 2 times to the present.

The other sign is here REJECT s saddlers partly as puff or simply referred to as shell.

It has been a German manufacturer, but I do not know the name.

These are the tools that were described in old catalogs as a German-made, just the alternative to the expensive tools Blanchard.

I still have those catalogs here, but unfortunately these are no brands visible.

The dealer kept the secret, they were afraid for their business ..... ((-:

I go in about 2 months to twenty Wolfgang, who is in second or 3rd-generation tool maker, I will consult him on the subject.

And if he can provide information about its competitors at the time, then I will Report here.

Greetings

Walter

Edited August 8, 2013 by walter roth

[Trox]

HalloTor ...

So you have more machines as I ......

I myself have only one sewing machine, one Adler class 5-8 is about 60 years old.

I sew everything by hand. Only the sky în the coach-concealing I sew with the machine and of course the leather tops himself.

But your Yuki is safe ne good machine that Yuki's here now have a good reputation.

What is the cost to the Yuki 3-way transportation, because I might have a buyer for you.

greeting

Walter

Hello Walter, the first four machines are not for sale, I use them my self. But a new juki TSC 441 head only is about 4500 Euro and a copy is about half compleete. You sew everything by hand? thats allot of work. your 5- 8 is the same as my 5-27, I used that before I got the Juki clone. Look at clone machines from Cobra and Cowboy or Sieck. These are copies of the Juki and set up to sew leather (not from Sieck, you must set up that yourself) These copies have a higher footlift and sews great. They are also built strong. The first three machines and the last machine are my users, and not for sale.

Tor

[walter roth]

Hi Tor..............

Oh, did not know ...... it is now already copies of the Yuki's where the Yikis're already copies ..... ((-:

I asked as soon as I saw the side of Sieck, wass are these machines are to be had for 2500 euros today, when the Maschine from Eagles still have cost 9000 € 10 years ago ...?

Well hand sewing .................

High quality will unfortunately make almost exclusively by hand.

The machines are so good, but I am better ....... ((((((((((-:

Well, if you're used to, which is well out of hand.

Greetings

Walter

[Trox]

Hi Tor..............

Oh, did not know ...... it is now already copies of the Yuki's where the Yikis're already copies ..... ((-:

I asked as soon as I saw the side of Sieck, wass are these machines are to be had for 2500 euros today, when the Maschine from Eagles still have cost 9000 € 10 years ago ...?

Well hand sewing .................

High quality will unfortunately make almost exclusively by hand.

The machines are so good, but I am better ....... ((((((((((-:

Well, if you're used to, which is well out of hand.

Greetings

Walter

Hi Walter, sorry for late replay. There has been Chinese copies from Juki 441 for many years now, and they starting to good. Today all German machines are also produced in China, and you will get the quality you pay for there. The todays 441 copy is the second generation "clone" machines. We call them clones when all parts are interchangeable . The 441 clone who are sold by our member dealers are improved versions with a higher foot lift, bigger hand wheels (on some) and set up to sew leather. With smooth feet's and feed dog to sew wegtan leather without making ugly marks on it. These machines are good value for the money, the member dealer are here to provide support and stand behind their products, who are made to their specifications. For factory use 24-7 you would choose a original Juki, for a saddler shop these machines will last until they become unmodern. You can also buy all kinds of saddler's attachments, like feet`s and special needle plates for doing all kind of operations. Member has used these machines for many years no and they get very good feed back.

Tor