Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 7:54 PM, shoepatcher said: Good news. Weaver Leather now has the 969 Pure out!! This is a stripped down 969 with large balance wheel, no air lift rather foot lift. It is just like the 205 plane jane was but now it is the big brother. I believe the price complete is $5895.00 if you set up an account with them. So now the 969 Pure, the Eco and the Gold edition with all the toys. 3 price points to choose from depending on money and needs. 16.5" throat, self winding bobbin winder on front of machine, larger bobbin, one step oiling. Higher lift, bigger stitch length than 205. check it out. glenn 6500 Euro with all the good stuff on it at sieck.de Germany. Machine without support, you can always get support from Dürkopp Adler. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Kleofash Posted May 27, 2021 Members Report Posted May 27, 2021 Hello. Honestly, I doubt that it is brand new. The stand (table) is 100% not original. I just ordered a brand new one, with original foldable stand and some extras for 7280€ including transport and setup onsite. Quote
Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 I kind of went the other direction, from a 441 back 100 years to BUSM N⁰6.....the right direction by the way. Kept the 441, it has to many attachments not to be useful. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kleofash said: Hello. Honestly, I doubt that it is brand new. The stand (table) is 100% not original. I just ordered a brand new one, with original foldable stand and some extras for 7280€ including transport and setup onsite. http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/sewing/arm-type-machines/?produkt=5656 When it says brand new, why wouldn't it be? That what Sieck does, they just sell machines cheap without investing much talk in to it. I've dealt with them several times, you get what is announced. But do not expect any support or answer to question's Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Kleofash Posted May 27, 2021 Members Report Posted May 27, 2021 Hello, I have 3 hints. 1. "my" technician says from pictures, that is seems used (I cant tell as I cant spot any specific hints) 2. the price is not only cheap, but suspiciously cheap 3. I bought their "Sieck 441" - they said brand new, declared as brand new, but it was already used (for sure!). Maybe not for long time, but used. I bought from them some items, and overall Im not satisfied. I would recommend them with lot of caution. Quote
Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Kleofash said: Hello. Honestly, I doubt that it is brand new. The stand (table) is 100% not original. I just ordered a brand new one, with original foldable stand and some extras for 7280€ including transport and setup onsite. Look at the price I posted here 6 years ago (top of the thread) The price has gone down since that time when it was new on the marked. Knock off's has dominated the marked and "Original machines" producers had to lower their prices. When it comes to tables/stands most dealers have their own. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kleofash said: Hello, I have 3 hints. 1. "my" technician says from pictures, that is seems used (I cant tell as I cant spot any specific hints) 2. the price is not only cheap, but suspiciously cheap 3. I bought their "Sieck 441" - they said brand new, declared as brand new, but it was already used (for sure!). Maybe not for long time, but used. I bought from them some items, and overall Im not satisfied. I would recommend them with lot of caution. Dealers have to defend their price. But why would he need that, your dealer provides service, support and set up on site. That's worth the difference, perhaps more. Sieck's machines are just sewn of by their mechanic, not set up for individual needs as yours. But I doubt it's used, maybe stored but not used. I have no reasons to believe that. Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Kleofash Posted May 27, 2021 Members Report Posted May 27, 2021 :-) I have no reason to offend nor defend them. Anyway, Im looking fwd to get my new sewing machine. Definitely Ill make a review once it is here. Quote
Trox Posted May 27, 2021 Author Report Posted May 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kleofash said: :-) I have no reason to offend nor defend them. Anyway, Im looking fwd to get my new sewing machine. Definitely Ill make a review once it is here. If I was to buy one I would be sure I had the needed support. I buy only stuff that I don't need support on from Sieck. I look forwards to your review, good luck with it! Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members Kleofash Posted January 22, 2022 Members Report Posted January 22, 2022 The machine has been finally delivered. Ill prepare a short review. Quote
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