Turks Head - A Miracle May Have Occurred (But Interweaves?)

[Tracym]

I think it's a miracle, after many failed attempts, I finally achieved a turks head. I think the instructions I used were from Gail Haught. So I have a 6 bight Turks head. But, it isn't big enough for the sliding knot I need, I want to put another one over the top of it. I was thinking of using another 6 bight with an interweave - that should make it big enough to cover the first one, right? I guess I like the gaucho interweave, although I'm not too picky now - but all the instructions I can find are for a 4 bight. Can anyone point me to some instructions, or give me a pattern? I seem to be able to understand the over 1 under 2 sort of thing, but I don't see to do as well with the grids. Thanks! (oooh and this knot stuff can become addictive, I can tell)

[TXAG]

I've found this guy's videos very helpful....(The Hought books -- not so much...for me, anyway)...

http://www.youtube.com/user/isainakazin

He never responds to comments or questions though, so...I don't know...I think they're easy enough to follow (and I hate grids too, btw)...

Edited November 22, 2013 by TXAG

[megabit]

Your best bet might be to tie another one 4 bight with paracord and practice interweaving that until the pattern of it starts to click. After you start seeing the pattern of how to do it making it bigger is just doing more of the same.

[Tracym]

I can see how its done, on a 4 bight one. But I couldn't figure out how to adapt it to the 6b. The pattern I saw on the 4 bight some something like under 1, over 1, under 1, over 2 - then under 1 over 1 under 2 over 2 - then under 1 over 2 under 2 over 2. But the problem I have is, I have more strands to start with, so can't figure out how to adapt that. Since I have found one knot I can manage to make, I was hoping to exand on that instead of starting over. Plus, haha, I'm trying to finish the dumb knot so I can use it tomorrow - nothing like a little time deadline for inspiration...

[Tracym]

Maybe one of those videos is it - he's calling it 11 bight.. I'm going to try

[TXAG]

Yeah, he has several, so check them all...he does some based on a 5L x 4B...some based on 7L x 6B, etc...hopefully there's one you can use. Even if you had to start a new one, if you follow his videos, it won't take long. If I can do it, I am sure you'll be fine.

[Tracym]

Thanks. They do look like good videos. I'm still not sure how many l (part?) I have, but I know its 6 bight. Fingers crossed

[megabit]

The thing I try to get to is not caring about the over under as such. I want to learn the pattern so looking at the knot tells me how many over or under. It is way hard to learn all of the progressions of how many over and under. On the other hand once you learn what you are looking for / at you can tell where to go. Does that make sense. Oh and if you can tie the 7/6 knot you have already tied a 5/4 one. You just do another set of passes to move it up from 4 bight to 6.

Good luck those videos look like they cover what you want. Now if you can follow them you will be set.

[TXAG]

I think I finally deduced from Hought's Romal Reins book that she was referring to a 7L x 6B when she says "a 6-bight turkshead". I thought calling it that was very ambiguous...in the other book, she only calls it a 6B turkshead, leaving it open to all sorts of interpretation. I got the impression she didn't really care about the ambiguity, but...

Anyway, she mentioned the 7L x 6B in the Romal Reins book as being "the most common" base knot...for whatever that's worth...

[Tracym]

*happy dance* I did it! Right as I run out of string too. Yay! Thanks all for the help. I suppose I didn't make my life easier by learning on 1/16" kangaroo, but hey, that's what I needed to use. Now, to get the critter relocated to where it needs to be and tightened up - s/b another adventure.