awharness Report post Posted January 29, 2014 I was looking on the Groz-becket website and they have a d and DH point needle, I use or now, but I really like the look of the D or DH. Does anyone have experience with these points with the 441's? Does anyone sell the Groz-becket in 794 d-DH in size 25 or so? Thanks! -Andrew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted January 29, 2014 I have and use some diamond point needles on my Cowboy CB4500. They produce a very straight stitch line, with the thread sitting on top of the leather. The effect is the opposite of the more common S (wedge) point needles supplied with these machines. The S needles tend to lay the thread into the top layer, with a smaller visual gap between stitches. I find that some top tension increase is usually needed to bring the bottom knots up into the leather with diamond points, after using S points. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites