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Just wanted to say thanks for everyone's contribution on this thread; it's been a real learning experience. Amazing to see the collection of tools some of y'all have!

As an update, I ended up having a telephone conversation with the seller and ultimately it was decided that a refund would be the best way forward. The seller seemed like a genuinely nice bloke and, without prompting on my part, very kindly refunded the postage costs too. I'm not an expert on these tools, but I'm still feeling a pang of regret at letting this one go since it was such a beautiful thing. But ultimately, I need something that I can work with.

Now I've gotta decide whether I should invest in another plough gauge or just stick with my strap cutter...

Cheers all.

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Lovely to see all these old tools. But just a thought when I read ".......you can see the variety they did over the years." I thought that variety, constant changing and fiddling, 'upgrades' really means that the basic design is flawed. Now compare that with some tools that have stayed the same over all the years. Having said that, 'Leather' tools in general have probably stayed essentially unchanged for a couple of hundred years. I visited the Walsall Leather Museum and nearly everything on display was just a dusty version of all my tools. No wonder the reselling value (Ebay etc.) of some tools is so high.

Claire

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wouldn't say the design was flawed, the real old ones were made by an individual by hand, all the pieces were made for a single gauge (hence why they have numbers stamped on every piece, they were all slightly different)

then they changed design slightly to be made by machine

then materials changed during the war

Finally, real cost cutting takes place & the brass content is lowered which required a change in the guide rail & clamp parts.

Interestingly though, the blades fit all of them, they never changed that layout.

BTW, dixons did at least 3 different versions of their gauge, even though they were much simpler/rougher/cheaper than the french ones, they still found things to change :thumbsup:

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Changing things over the years is quite common. One example that comes to mind is Stanley wood planes, during WWII they stopped using brass because it was needed to make shell casings. They switched over to a black Bakelite type of stuff and after the war went back to brass. The parts interchange but they also give you a history lesson if one takes the time to learn it. There are I believe 19 variations through the years on the common number 5 plane.

A problem you run into is they turned thier own threads on everything. You can't get placement parts at Home Depot, the thread pitch will be wrong and forcing it will put that tool in the scrap yard. That being said when you see a stanley plane with a bright shinny new screw in it your best option is to leave it where you see it.

I enjoy old tools and working on them, they were meant to be used and I use them. I learned to sharpen tools and that's why I'm leaning leather work. My friends have not learned that if I own it and it is supposed to be sharp, it's sharp. Putting the sharp pointy things in leather sheaths keeps the rust off my tools, apparently blood has a high salt content in it.

There is a huge difference in quality between the old stuff and the new stuff. Rust is really rust, it's not patina dispite what the EBay ad says.

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Hello everyone, 

I‘m aware this is a very old thread, so sorry if I bring this back up, but I was thinking, maybe someone could be of help. 

I‘ve stumbled over this during a research on google. 

I have an old Blade (already took me some time to find out it‘s part of a plough gauge), with 2 slots. 

Only mark on it is a horse on the blade. 

It‘s been in our family for decades, but I finally wanted to sell it and tried to do some research. 

Can anyone help me on infos regarding manufacturer, brand, age and maybe value as a single blade? 

It doesn‘t seem to work to attach a picture here, so here‘s a link to the picture on my Google Drive:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/163TIVAqIHAPPIw8sWw1BMjggfyd_6q4-/view?usp=drivesdk

Thanks in advance for any help or advice. 

 

Steve

 

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