SteelcityK9Cop Report post Posted July 30, 2014 If ya'll don't mind taking a look.... I'm using two pieces of 8oz. leather... #24 Schmetz Twist Needle.... 277 top thread.... 207 bobbin thread. I sewed a few rows then flipped the leather over and sewed a few more so you can see both the top and bottom stitches side by side. I'm looking for opinions if I have the tensions set correctly on my Cowboy 4500. Thanks!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Report post Posted July 30, 2014 Hey Dude. This is going to sound stupid but its good if you could sew top and bottom stitches with different coloured thread, say black and white then we can see if it is pulling up too much or not enough. Very hard to see your pictures and which thread is which. Cheers Trevor "Way Down Under" Cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteelcityK9Cop Report post Posted July 30, 2014 No problem! Only I had to use 277 thread in both top and bottom stitches... the white 277 for some reason shreds inside the needle hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlapaglia Report post Posted July 30, 2014 If that's done with Black top thread and white bobbin thread it looks like you have it set correctly. Otherwise white would show on the black side or black would show on the white side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteelcityK9Cop Report post Posted July 30, 2014 If that's done with Black top thread and white bobbin thread it looks like you have it set correctly. Otherwise white would show on the black side or black would show on the white side. Yes... I loaded the bobbin with the 277 white. As I mentioned before however, my normal bobbin is a 207 thread as shown in the top 4 rows in the first photo. Would the different thread size make a noticeable difference? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Report post Posted July 30, 2014 Hey. Yes Ideally the top thread is the one that should "be hidden into the stitch." If the bottom thread shows on the top you have too much pull on the take up tension so back that off a little. And if the bottom thread is a bit loose and doesn't "slightly disappear" then tighten the tension and it will pull the thread up more. With different size threads this will vary somewhat. Make sure your needle eye is smooth and free of snags. Buy yourself a loupe and examine it closely. Make also sure that when you put the needle in the machine it is sitting dead right so the flat part is facing to your right quarter. ie 3 on a clock. You may need a lubricator bottle for your thread which may help. Using a smaller thread on the bottom is always good as well but not strictly required. If you cant do it get someone to check the timing and it should sew like a dream.. Good luck Trevor "Way Down Under" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites