Shoe Making Sewing Machine

[jmakin2]

If he's from Nevada, yes, that's my friend. Is the 830 a dual needle Ron?

Also does it come with a table like the 810-2?

[Jarakoko]

830 is on my list too, love that it can be used as single machine as well. 830-2 comes with table as I know off.

[Darren Brosowski]

Almost no machine without an open frame shuttle (exception being the 132 class shuttle) can handle anything over 138 thread. The 810/820/830 bobbin is maxed out at 138.

The Cowboy branded GA5 is capable of heavy thread but despite asking a number of dealers I have yet to see even a photograph of a roller foot so I have sourced them myself - NOT from China.

The 17/18 class machines were designed for the shoe industry as vamping (closing) machines which is why they are right handed (17) and left handed (18).

The "Global" machine mentioned is purely for forming a "corded welt" in the uppers of shoes and, being decorative, uses an open frame shuttle for heavy threads. I have one of the Italian feed up the arm versions around here somewhere but there is also an ADLER 204 model for the job.

For the Cowboy dealers I believe the equivalent is the 7133 based on the Chinese 253 with double roller feet.

But the Singer 17/18 have extremely small bobbins and I´m not sure if they can handle anything larger that 138 thread.

I think a roller foot machine with post bed or cylinder is a good choice for these tiny shoes.

Get in touch with Toledo Sewing Machines if you want a Cowboy machine. They also have used machines and maybe the used ones will meet your requirements and they often can save you some $$$. Toledo Sewing has banner on top of this page.

I like the shoes with fur very much - really cool shoes!!!

[Techsew Ron]

If he's from Nevada, yes, that's my friend. Is the 830 a dual needle Ron?Also does it come with a table like the 810-2?

Yes of course, table unit with SmartServo motor are included. 830 is single needle, 830-2 is double needle with top and bottom feed.

Ron

Edited October 18, 2014 by Techsew Ron

[Jarakoko]

Almost no machine without an open frame shuttle (exception being the 132 class shuttle) can handle anything over 138 thread. The 810/820/830 bobbin is maxed out at 138.

The Cowboy branded GA5 is capable of heavy thread but despite asking a number of dealers I have yet to see even a photograph of a roller foot so I have sourced them myself - NOT from China.

The 17/18 class machines were designed for the shoe industry as vamping (closing) machines which is why they are right handed (17) and left handed (18).

The "Global" machine mentioned is purely for forming a "corded welt" in the uppers of shoes and, being decorative, uses an open frame shuttle for heavy threads. I have one of the Italian feed up the arm versions around here somewhere but there is also an ADLER 204 model for the job.

For the Cowboy dealers I believe the equivalent is the 7133 based on the Chinese 253 with double roller feet.

what machines 17/18 are you talking about?

I have just one shot in getting the perfect machine, all help is highly appreciated

[jmakin2]

I'm buying a juki 1560n. I think it'll do the job im looking for