NVLeatherWorx Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Just so everyone knows going into the world of water-based products, they do not give you long-lasting coverage and have a very long history of rub-off and bleeding. If you are putting high-quality products to the end user then you will only get a high-quality finish from a product that has a long history of meeting that objective and that is to use a spirit/spirit-oil blend based product. That means that you need to use either Fiebing's or Angelus. Besides, unless you are actually intentionally inhaling the fumes from these products for the purpose of trying to "get high" they are actually not that toxic nor will there be any permanent damage. And, if the odor is really that strong for you then you might want to consider getting yourself one of those little respirator masks that you can wear and make sure that you are always doing your finishing in a well ventilated area (which is recommended by the manufacturers by the way, not to mention OSHA, etc.). I have been using the Fiebing's line since I started working with leather and have had no ill effects from it as I pay attention to the cautionary things such as ventilation and wearing a respirator and have done so all along. Quote Richard Hardie R. P. Hardie Leather Co. R. P. Hardie Leather Co. - OnlineR. P. Hardie Leather Co on Facebook
Members cem Posted January 3, 2015 Members Report Posted January 3, 2015 Funny I've never had a problem with rub off or bleeding with Craftsha water based, have you used it. It's more UV stabilised than spirit based dyes from my testing and that is comparing it to Fiebings, Angelus and some other spirit based dyes from Australia in our hot West Australian summer and if you haven't used it how can you comment on what it's like, it's not like the Ecoflo stuff which I've also used. Why has this place turned into if your not using this certain product,stitching this way, applying dye that way it's wrong well pfft to that, it's fine to let people try different things and let them figure out personally if it's right for them in how they want their stuff to look. The OP asked for a recommendation for a low VOC and that is what I gave him and if it doesn't work for him at least he tried it. I have no trouble with Fiebings and still use it regularly on items I repair, I also have a respirator mask, spray hood that vents fumes and actual windows that open woo hoo. I've also worked with all types of casting resins and fibreglass and are well aware of OHSA. I have a sensitivity to the ethanol base that Angelus uses and there is no getting around it. The OP may or may not have the same problem. If the OP had asked for spirit based dyes I would of given all the ones I know of but again he asked for low VOC ie waterbased. Quote
NVLeatherWorx Posted January 3, 2015 Report Posted January 3, 2015 Have a nice day. Quote Richard Hardie R. P. Hardie Leather Co. R. P. Hardie Leather Co. - OnlineR. P. Hardie Leather Co on Facebook
Members zaynexpetty Posted January 10, 2015 Author Members Report Posted January 10, 2015 Just so everyone knows going into the world of water-based products, they do not give you long-lasting coverage and have a very long history of rub-off and bleeding. If you are putting high-quality products to the end user then you will only get a high-quality finish from a product that has a long history of meeting that objective and that is to use a spirit/spirit-oil blend based product. That means that you need to use either Fiebing's or Angelus. Besides, unless you are actually intentionally inhaling the fumes from these products for the purpose of trying to "get high" they are actually not that toxic nor will there be any permanent damage. And, if the odor is really that strong for you then you might want to consider getting yourself one of those little respirator masks that you can wear and make sure that you are always doing your finishing in a well ventilated area (which is recommended by the manufacturers by the way, not to mention OSHA, etc.). I have been using the Fiebing's line since I started working with leather and have had no ill effects from it as I pay attention to the cautionary things such as ventilation and wearing a respirator and have done so all along. Funny I've never had a problem with rub off or bleeding with Craftsha water based, have you used it. It's more UV stabilised than spirit based dyes from my testing and that is comparing it to Fiebings, Angelus and some other spirit based dyes from Australia in our hot West Australian summer and if you haven't used it how can you comment on what it's like, it's not like the Ecoflo stuff which I've also used. Why has this place turned into if your not using this certain product,stitching this way, applying dye that way it's wrong well pfft to that, it's fine to let people try different things and let them figure out personally if it's right for them in how they want their stuff to look. The OP asked for a recommendation for a low VOC and that is what I gave him and if it doesn't work for him at least he tried it. I have no trouble with Fiebings and still use it regularly on items I repair, I also have a respirator mask, spray hood that vents fumes and actual windows that open woo hoo. I've also worked with all types of casting resins and fibreglass and are well aware of OHSA. I have a sensitivity to the ethanol base that Angelus uses and there is no getting around it. The OP may or may not have the same problem. If the OP had asked for spirit based dyes I would of given all the ones I know of but again he asked for low VOC ie waterbased. I received the Craftsha dye, and I love it. There are almost no fumes, and after a couple of layers of dye, and buffing with a clean white cloth, the dye transfer is VERY minimal, especially compared to Fiebings. I can not comment on the "long-lasting coverage" because I have only just received and tested the product, but I am sure that if my customers aren't happy, they will let me know. As well as with my own experience, as I use my own products for months to test them. I think this dye is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! Quote
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