Which Adler Sewing Machine Are The Best?

[baadSoM]

Hi all.

I have a question regarding which type of machine I should buy.

I allready have an old Singer 29K62, but it cant handle the tasks I need anymore. So I have been looking (a lot) on the internet hoping to find a new (used) one but I dont want to spend a lot of (my girlfriends) money and then end up with the wrong machine.

So I really hope that someone can help me with deciding on one of the 3 below.

Adler 169

Adler 269

Adler 205

My primarely requirements are:

Cylinder Machine with walking foot.

Must be able to sew both thin leather, and thick leather. (e.g. leather pants, and heavy harnesses)

Which one can handle the thickest leather of the 3?

Does anybody know what the difference is between the 3 machines regarding this, and what the staminar is. Which is more durable of the 3?

We are located in Denmark, and this type of sewing machine are very expensive and not that commen in DK, so the plan right now is that we are going to order one from the US, and have it shipped here.

I hope that there are a lot of experts in here that can help me/us so that we can move with the process of buying a new machine.

Kind regards

Thommas

[ArildS]

" ... the plan right now is that we are going to order one from the US, and have it shipped here."

Hold on, you live in Denmark... What's wrong with getting one from Germany, your neighbouring country, where they are/were made?

There are suppliers down there, for example:

http://www.sieck.de/maschinen/naehen/armnaehmaschinen/

Admittedly, I had to look up "Bayreuth", but you should be able to drive down there in half a day or so,

or have it sent up, which ever is cheaper. Anyway, having one sent from the US is high cost (and higher risk).

Buying from a supplier like Sieck seems safer, and they probably give you a warranty on used ones as well.

I don't have any experience with them, it's more like an example.. the selection in Germany is a lot greater than Denmark. I also think the + 250,- euro option for a servo motor seems attractive.

I don't really have any advise on which model you should choose, though.

The 205-370 is my dream machine, but very expensive and perhaps too heavy duty for "leather pants". It's the toughest of the three,

but that doesn't necessarily mean "more durable". If you can find one, I think it is the easiest one to sell (and get your money back) if you regret the decision.

They are around 4.000 euros at Sieck, I think, if they have one at all. It can be hard to find.

There is no good answer to "which machine is the best". Depends on what you are gonna use it for (the most).

"Heavy harness" is a bit vague. How thick leather are you going to sew?

There is a reason for the variety of models available, you know. There's simply no "one machine to rule them all".

Rgds, A

[baadSoM]

Thank you so much for the reply.

It has to at least sew up to 10 mm thick leather.

Do you know of any other companies in Germany or Europa which have these machines? Any experience with them?

Rgds.

Thommas

[simontuntelder]

Hej Thommas, du finder ikke en maskine, der kan bruges til det helt tynde og det helt tykke. Der skal i al fald to maskiner til.

Men din opfattelse af det helt kraftige, er garanteret anderledes end mange brugere her. 10mm materiale er ikke synderligt meget og både 169 og 269 burde kunne klare det. Enhver maskine med alternerende trykfødder kan klare 10mm.

Den helt store forskel er trådtykkelsen, som maskinerne kan sy med.

Der er også danske forhandlere, men de er tåbelige mange af dem og umulige at arbejde med. Dog har jeg hørt, at Walter fra Pfaff i Bredebro ligger inde med gode ting (ikke kun Pfaff) og jeg har engang fået en god snak med en af Scanteams mekanikere. Dog sælger de ikke udelukkende Adler og Adler er svære at opdrive i DK.

Hvis jeg var dig, ville jeg købe en maskine i Tyskland fra Sieck, Frank Brunnet eller lignende