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Thanks for taking time to explain all that Bob, I do have the Likewise book but not right here in front of me so when I get home I will get it out and look for the elements you are talking about and compare. I gives me a better understanding of Sheridan to understand what Don King was trying to create when he created "Sheridan" from Traditional. It also helps me know what I am doing when I am trying to do some "Sheridan" tooling practice. I know what i want to do but for some reason I can't seem to re create it myself.

Vaya Con Dios, Alan Bell

I don't think Don was trying to create Sheridan style carving....he was just trying to improve on the style he learned. He was a Porter saddlemaker and when he went out on his own he tooled the way he wanted, which was a variant of what they did at Porters.....more refined and more customized. Remember, while Don was certainly a catylist, there were other Porter trained saddlemakers and toolers working in the area, as well as those trained by Don. Bill Gardner being a prime example. It would be unfair to a lot of great craftsman to not credit them in the evolution of the style also. Undoubtedly Don's business success as a saddlemaker influenced others to do what he was doing....

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Whatever anyone wants to label this carving, it's great carving as all of Bobocat's work is.

I agree it's not really Sheridan, but I wouldn't consider it Stohlman either. I wonder if it wouldn't be like some of Don's earlier work when he was starting to develop his own style, before his tooling got smaller and tighter?

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Thanks for giving me the direction and compliment.

It is true that I didn't know how to give the title at the beginning.

I live in Taiwan and there are no horses around my environment , so even don’t know how to make the saddle of the horse.The impressions of the old western just be seen in the movie, and I also want to learn how to make a paddle of a horse some day.

Thank Hidepounder spend time to tell me the characteristic of SHERIDAN,and also thank ALAN BELL tell me what he thinks.I am poor in english and I must find my brother to tell me what you say.so I just used my eyes to record and learn Floral Carving in the past.I learned the technique of Stohlman style carving in the book at the begining,and till I have ability to buy the tools of SHERIDAN and then begin to try the style of SHERIDAN.It's few peole to do the job of leathercraft around me,and no one can tell me what is the SHERIDAN,so I think it's the one of part of the western all the time. I didn't want to give up the original skill of the Stohlman style carving in the procedure of learning SHERIDAN.And it's like ClayB say, it's not like the SHERIDAN and also not like the Stohlman.but I respect and worship the both of Stohlman and Don King all the time.

I think I just like a child likes eating to love to put the same fruit I like in the same basket, and try to combination of some styles.Maybe it will lost the original meaning,but I feel happy in it.I always learn the new ways the rolling up of leaves just like the metal carving always uses the tooling of Stohlman,and still keeps the cutted line of the metal carving,I don't know what I think is correctly or not really.

I thinked about the job of Hidepounder in these days,and It's a pretty good of job.It spreads the flowers in the frame in nature way,and also have the rolling up and fluent leaves. This is the structure of making picture I'd never seen before.I admire the Hidepounder that he understands the style of leather carving very much.

just like ClayB saying,I really want to chang my habit of leather carving to fit my work,and even think about changing some tools to fit my works now.

Of couse,It's just my own openion,I think I must work more hard because it's a long road about learning.

Thanks again about everyone's openion.

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Thanks for giving me the direction and compliment.

It is true that I didn't know how to give the title at the beginning.

I live in Taiwan and there are no horses around my environment , so even don't know how to make the saddle of the horse.The impressions of the old western just be seen in the movie, and I also want to learn how to make a paddle of a horse some day.

Thank Hidepounder spend time to tell me the characteristic of SHERIDAN,and also thank ALAN BELL tell me what he thinks.I am poor in english and I must find my brother to tell me what you say.so I just used my eyes to record and learn Floral Carving in the past.I learned the technique of Stohlman style carving in the book at the begining,and till I have ability to buy the tools of SHERIDAN and then begin to try the style of SHERIDAN.It's few peole to do the job of leathercraft around me,and no one can tell me what is the SHERIDAN,so I think it's the one of part of the western all the time. I didn't want to give up the original skill of the Stohlman style carving in the procedure of learning SHERIDAN.And it's like ClayB say, it's not like the SHERIDAN and also not like the Stohlman.but I respect and worship the both of Stohlman and Don King all the time.

I think I just like a child likes eating to love to put the same fruit I like in the same basket, and try to combination of some styles.Maybe it will lost the original meaning,but I feel happy in it.I always learn the new ways the rolling up of leaves just like the metal carving always uses the tooling of Stohlman,and still keeps the cutted line of the metal carving,I don't know what I think is correctly or not really.

I thinked about the job of Hidepounder in these days,and It's a pretty good of job.It spreads the flowers in the frame in nature way,and also have the rolling up and fluent leaves. This is the structure of making picture I'd never seen before.I admire the Hidepounder that he understands the style of leather carving very much.

just like ClayB saying,I really want to chang my habit of leather carving to fit my work,and even think about changing some tools to fit my works now.

Of couse,It's just my own openion,I think I must work more hard because it's a long road about learning.

Thanks again about everyone's openion.

Bobocat,

You're a gracious speaker and a Master tooler! I can't wait to see more of you're work. It's very inspiring to me and the others who recoganize your talent!

Bob

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Wow...

Bobocat and Hidepounder talking shop together... two of the best leatherworkers I have ever seen. It's thrilling just to read this little thread!! I love this place. It makes you want to grab some leather and start cutting and pounding away to see if you can even get close to these guys!!

:rockon::rockon::rockon:

Ride Safe!

Bree

2003 Dyna Wide Glide

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