Members Jon P Posted June 15, 2015 Members Report Posted June 15, 2015 My first ever attempt at an avenger style holster. No where near perfect by a long shot, but I learned A LOT making it. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted June 15, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted June 15, 2015 We could 'dog-pile' and 'critique', but might be better if YOU tell us what you learned. Thing about pride and learnin's.... if you really do learn from your mistakes, then the guy who knows the most is the guy who made the most mistakes! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Jon P Posted June 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted June 15, 2015 My biggest mistake was not waiting on you to offer a pattern for the sr40c!! LOL Design mistakes are: I think my overall design needs to be tweaked to say the least. To much material behind the back belt slot. The stiffener could have been designed with a better flowing line. Backside of the stiffener is over sized for the area. The trigger guard stitch line could have been tighter. Needs lines that flow. Belt slots need to be executed better. But, what I learned the most is that I need to make more corrections to my patterns before cutting the leather. I tried to do to much on the fly... Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted June 15, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted June 15, 2015 My biggest mistake was not waiting on you to offer a pattern for the sr40c!! LOL Design mistakes are: I think my overall design needs to be tweaked to say the least. To much material behind the back belt slot. The stiffener could have been designed with a better flowing line. Backside of the stiffener is over sized for the area. The trigger guard stitch line could have been tighter. Needs lines that flow. Belt slots need to be executed better. But, what I learned the most is that I need to make more corrections to my patterns before cutting the leather. I tried to do to much on the fly... Yeah, I SURE shooda hadda pattern out by now I "found" the dummy in the bottom of the drawer (again) the other day. One day you'll git a free one, though ... I don't know you need to reduce the back portion of teh "stiffener".. maybe just move the SLOT forward. You want to keep as much riding the belt as you can, which usually means the slot is up against the top of yer sketch. I'll sketch sumthin to demo that in a minute... But I WOULD leave a bit more on the ENDS of the back slot (above and below it). It's been done, but where possible I like to see 1/2" of material there. It LOOKS LIKE (from here) your rear slot might come back a bit. Like instead of removing material there, maybe leave the same amount of material but move the slot so more is between the slot and the gun. Without having that gun in front of me, I'd still guess that a feller otta have like 1/2" er better between the stitch line and the slot. The EDGE of the slot, not to the center of it. Good news about holsters that don't go quite right.. they're fodder for re-works. Wet the sucker down, put the gun in there again (plastic baggie or whatever), and then bone it in firm. Then just measure from yer stitchin' to where you WANT it, and measure the difference. STILL, ya got a covered trigger, a good stout sweat shield that aint gonna go all wet noodle on ya, plenty of room to grip the grip correctly, and a razorback. So, not all bad Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted June 15, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted June 15, 2015 If ya draw the gun on the paper (or cardboard or whatever), then "theory" is the leather would bend at the top of the slide, yes? And your stitch line will be behind (OFF OF) the frame. So, 'stiffener' can fill between those two points. Note in the sketch the front slot is IN FRONT OF the slide. When the leather bends on this slot (path of least resistance thing), what is left is a "belt loop" that is as wide as it could be. The dotted (stitch) lines are angled in so to max the portion riding on the belt. Crap... I coulda had that pattern half drawn out if I wasn't gabbing ! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Jon P Posted June 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) Thanks for all the help! Gonna give it another try soon... Love getting to pick your brain!! So the "front" belt slot needs to be as close to the bend as possible? And, needs as much "meat" as possible along the back? Edited June 15, 2015 by Jon P Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted June 15, 2015 Contributing Member Report Posted June 15, 2015 "Needs to" might be too strong a term. Being your show, then it NEEDS TO be the way YOU want it But I like that strip / loop / stiffener / whateveryacallit to be as wide as I can get away with. I try to plan it where you don't have the gun (specially a corner) scraping the stitching every time it's in or out the holster. Maybe not avoid it, but minimize it. As for placement of the slots, I'm gonna draw up something, since I git asked about it some. It's one of those save 1000 words things. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
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