Members l2bravo Posted November 28, 2015 Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 How was this seam sewn? The long one, that is running the length of this case? I really have no clue, and am stumped. Thanks guys, have a good weekend. Josh Quote
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 28, 2015 Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 My bet is they sewed the leather on an off the arm cylinder bed sewing machine, or by hand before the hard case inside was inserted. It could also just be a flat seam on a leather veneer and the other side where the handle is is hiding another secret. Do you have any other pictures? Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members l2bravo Posted November 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 Tinker, this isn't my case, It was just a pic I got off the net. It's called a "leg O' Muton" case, and they are for high end shotguns. I am thinking this isn't handsewn, as I am pretty sure they are wet formed, on a wooden form. What kind of arm would sew around 35''? This really has me stumped. Quote
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 28, 2015 Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 Tinker, this isn't my case, It was just a pic I got off the net. It's called a "leg O' Muton" case, and they are for high end shotguns. I am thinking this isn't handsewn, as I am pretty sure they are wet formed, on a wooden form. What kind of arm would sew around 35''? This really has me stumped. Hand sew it before wet forming? And this kind of arm: Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 28, 2015 Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 Here is a close up of this seam on one: http://www.hallowellco.com/red-head-case-4.jpg But then there is this: http://www.hueycases.com/wp-content/gallery/leg-of-mutton-case/43.jpg Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted November 28, 2015 Moderator Report Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) A lot of long bag manufacturers use Puritan "Alligator" chainstitch machines to sew up the arm. Nobody sees the inside stitches in a rifle or golf bag. Plus, the top stitches are usually all perfect in a chain stitch. The thread is waxed linen that is waxed as you sew. The wax is Super Ceroxylon, made by Puritan. Edited November 28, 2015 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members l2bravo Posted November 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 Maybe I am not seeing the possibility here..... I am not sure how to hand sew this. You would need 4' long arms, the size of pencils. Look at this link, and see what this guy says. http://queencitydrygoods.blogspot.com/2013/12/leg-o-mutton-rifle-case.html I know nothing of this machine, so therein, may lie the answer. Quote
Members l2bravo Posted November 28, 2015 Author Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 Wiz, that is a machine I am not familiar with. I am only about 4 months deep in this all, and just trying to learn. Thanks for the insight, both of you guys. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted November 28, 2015 Moderator Report Posted November 28, 2015 Maybe I am not seeing the possibility here..... I am not sure how to hand sew this. You would need 4' long arms, the size of pencils. Look at this link, and see what this guy says. http://queencitydrygoods.blogspot.com/2013/12/leg-o-mutton-rifle-case.html I know nothing of this machine, so therein, may lie the answer. A Landis 12-K is a curved hook-needle and awl machine that has little depth of field bast the needle. It is basically built to sew along the outer seam of leather shoes and boots. It may allow an inch or two of penetration inside the needle and awl. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 28, 2015 Members Report Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) Here is a close up of this seam on one: http://www.hallowellco.com/red-head-case-4.jpg But then there is this: http://www.hueycases.com/wp-content/gallery/leg-of-mutton-case/43.jpg Maybe I am not seeing the possibility here..... I am not sure how to hand sew this. You would need 4' long arms, the size of pencils. Look at this link, and see what this guy says. http://queencitydrygoods.blogspot.com/2013/12/leg-o-mutton-rifle-case.html I know nothing of this machine, so therein, may lie the answer. A Landis 12-K is a curved hook-needle and awl machine that has little depth of field bast the needle. It is basically built to sew along the outer seam of leather shoes and boots. It may allow an inch or two of penetration inside the needle and awl. The first one of these pictures is a seam that came up on several cases when i searched and it is done from the outside. The guy in the link who used a landis probably did this seem as well on his machine and wet formed it afterwards. The answer to how you HAND sew long seams is you start at one end and work to the other, towards yourself. It can't really be done if you pre-glue, you need to put the seam together as you go. Its tight quarters but doable. Sometimes you can cheat and start from the center towards both ends in two pieces. Edited November 28, 2015 by TinkerTailor Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
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