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In reading the specs on the Toledo website the Cowboy 227r lists its max thread size as 207, but chatting with Ryan @ Neels's he's telling me 138, and he certainly knows volumes more about these machines more than I do. Is anybody currently using 207 in this machine that can chime in? I'm machine shopping and 207 thread is about the smallest I'm comfortable going with for work on the holsters I want to do, but the bulk of my work is going to be significantly thinner.... I'm sitting the fence between buying a 227r and a 3200.

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It depends on the hook and who sets up the machine.

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I have a 227R and use 207 all the time. Toledo Sewing set up the machine and it does great.

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I have a 227R and use 207 all the time. Toledo Sewing set up the machine and it does great.

Precisely my point. It is who sets up the machine, specifically the hook clearance. Perhaps the O.P. asked the wrong expert?

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It's reassuring to hear that it's indeed possible to run 207 from the comments above - Ryan at Neel's Saddlery is setting the unit up and is going to demo it to me on 138, he is hesitant to guarantee that 207 will be a trouble-free experience, and feels that it may be pushing the machine 'to its max'. I can see where that might be a fair statement, but to say I'm not experienced enough to even have an intelligent conversation about it at this point would be an understatement - I'm as green as it gets, but hopefully I'm choosing a good machine and distributor. I'm going to drive up to his location tomorrow and lay hands on the machine, run some sample leather through it, and if all goes well, bring it home with me. The one point he has driven home to me so far during our phone calls is that 'there is no single good middle ground machine', and that if I really want to do both lightweight leather with smaller thread gauges and heavy leathers with large thread gauges, that eventually, I'm going to end up with 2 machines.

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It's reassuring to hear that it's indeed possible to run 207 from the comments above - Ryan at Neel's Saddlery is setting the unit up and is going to demo it to me on 138, he is hesitant to guarantee that 207 will be a trouble-free experience, and feels that it may be pushing the machine 'to its max'. I can see where that might be a fair statement, but to say I'm not experienced enough to even have an intelligent conversation about it at this point would be an understatement - I'm as green as it gets, but hopefully I'm choosing a good machine and distributor. I'm going to drive up to his location tomorrow and lay hands on the machine, run some sample leather through it, and if all goes well, bring it home with me. The one point he has driven home to me so far during our phone calls is that 'there is no single good middle ground machine', and that if I really want to do both lightweight leather with smaller thread gauges and heavy leathers with large thread gauges, that eventually, I'm going to end up with 2 machines.

You're going have more than two machines if you get into both making and repairing leather goods. I currently own 6 industrial and 4 domestic sewing machines. I use them all from time to time. But, the bulk of my sewing is handled between a Cowboy CB4500, A long body special build Singer walking foot machine and two patchers with different builds.

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If my wife reads your last post, I'm dead :)

This is my second time around in the leather business. Last time, before packing it in, I had a Baker's Dozen of industrial sewing machines, all of which were in use.

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I'm using a Japan made consew 227. V-138 works great in that machine. No reverse, 

no problem. Haven't tried V-207 though,  sorry.

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On 2/16/2016 at 4:39 PM, Wizcrafts said:

Precisely my point. It is who sets up the machine, specifically the hook clearance. Perhaps the O.P. asked the wrong expert?

How can one check the hook on a 227 if we want to use 207? 

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2 hours ago, RobC01 said:

How can one check the hook on a 227 if we want to use 207? 

I don't recommend using #207 on this type of machine. It will probably cause the Ranko Valve to defribulate and implode into a gazillion pieces. :no:  At the very least, it will jam the hook.

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1 hour ago, Wizcrafts said:

I don't recommend using #207 on this type of machine. It will probably cause the Ranko Valve to defribulate and implode into a gazillion pieces. :no:  At the very least, it will jam the hook.

Oh my!  We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!  :)

 

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Lol

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