wolvenstien Report post Posted June 25, 2007 Here is a pic of a seat that is just like the one on my bike: Though mine does not have drivers back rest at this time, I do intend to add one from here: http://www.utpr.com/750magna.html like what is pictured.... Seeing how large the seat is compaired to the ones I see being made for the custom choppers, and taking into account that the seat is very comfortable.... especially for extended riding... how would you go about covering this with custom leather? Use the same design as the manufacturer? or would you change it up? Thanks much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolvenstien Report post Posted June 25, 2007 I might add here that the seat in the picture is a two part sear (not to mention the back rest) and the passenger part is removable.... but I would like to do both of them, the driver and passenger to match, because I do ride my wife around and occationally others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leathernut Report post Posted June 25, 2007 well there really a couple ways you could do it really.if its a 2 part seat obviously one at a time.i usually cut along the stitch line and use that as my top pattern or the stitch line could be lower so you wouldnt hit ,when your sitting on it.lot guys cut a top and sides and rivet to the bottom of pan.some make a top piece and a bottom and sandwich it together,thats way i like doing it.you can have lace stitching or you could saddle stitching done.myself i like saddle stitching more than i like lace.but thats just personal preferance.are you lookin to do this yourself,or have someone do it for you?theres a lot of talent on here,good seatmakers beeza,myself,beaverslayer,dave t.just to name a few.anyway if your gonna give a try .thats cool.any questions i can help with just let me know thanks DAN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 25, 2007 Wolfy, No easy construction technique for this one. You state that the seat is very comfortable. The main reason for that is not just the thick padding, but also the the thin stretchy covering.....which is probably not leather. That is not a knock on your seat. Vinyl is a very comfortable covering for bike seats because it stretches and then returns to shape when you are not on it..... This type of seat does not lend its self to the sandwich style of construction like I use. In sandwich construction you have a front and a back with no sides.....your seat is too thick for that.....In wet molding construction you have a front and sides with no back....(actually the back is a carpet like fabric that is glued on last). In my opinion this is definately a wet molding project. There are other features that your seatmaker will need to figure out also. This seat has a lot of options.... there is the grab strap, and the rear storage pouch and the passenger pad..... This is a job for Beeza if ever there was one.... I've said it here before there is no one better at this style of seat building than Roger. Roger, why don't you do a how to feature for us.... not a super detailed one but something like the one I'm doing with my latest seat...... I think I speak for all of us..... We would love to see it! Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roger Report post Posted June 25, 2007 Wolfy,No easy construction technique for this one. You state that the seat is very comfortable. The main reason for that is not just the thick padding, but also the the thin stretchy covering.....which is probably not leather. That is not a knock on your seat. Vinyl is a very comfortable covering for bike seats because it stretches and then returns to shape when you are not on it..... This type of seat does not lend its self to the sandwich style of construction like I use. In sandwich construction you have a front and a back with no sides.....your seat is too thick for that.....In wet molding construction you have a front and sides with no back....(actually the back is a carpet like fabric that is glued on last). In my opinion this is definately a wet molding project. There are other features that your seatmaker will need to figure out also. This seat has a lot of options.... there is the grab strap, and the rear storage pouch and the passenger pad..... This is a job for Beeza if ever there was one.... I've said it here before there is no one better at this style of seat building than Roger. Roger, why don't you do a how to feature for us.... not a super detailed one but something like the one I'm doing with my latest seat...... I think I speak for all of us..... We would love to see it! Dave thanks dave! i cover quite a few larger seats but, most of what you see are what the customer wants. i have found that most of the comfort comes from the shape of the seat and how well it supports you. you may find it to have more or less comfort with a thicker cover but once you break it in a bit it will feel better. your seat looks similar to the ones used on big dogs. i am covering one right now along with a p-pad and back rest. i'll post some pics in a few days. they do require quite a bit of effort to get the cover to lay right without puckers and wrinkles Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) thanks dave!i cover quite a few larger seats but, most of what you see are what the customer wants. i have found that most of the comfort comes from the shape of the seat and how well it supports you. you may find it to have more or less comfort with a thicker cover but once you break it in a bit it will feel better. your seat looks similar to the ones used on big dogs. i am covering one right now along with a p-pad and back rest. i'll post some pics in a few days. they do require quite a bit of effort to get the cover to lay right without puckers and wrinkles ALL RIGHT BEEZE.....post those "in the process" pics....I am dying to watch the master wet molder at his craft! I wish I had some 20 year old hands, I'd like to give it a shot. Dave Edited June 26, 2007 by David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolvenstien Report post Posted June 26, 2007 leathernut, Dave, Beeze.... Thanks for the reply... I intend to do this myself. My bike, my work. Here are a few pix of the seat.... First three are of the seat on the bike: Threse two are of the "scoop" in the seat... the vinyl sits higher than the padding beneath, first one is me pushing it in to the padding and the second is a few seconds after the vinyl returns to its original shape: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolvenstien Report post Posted June 26, 2007 This one is of the thickness of the vinyl: These are of the seams on the seats: And these are of the plastic pans for both the main seat and the passenger... As for the passenger backrest, I will do it the same as the seats. The previous owner of the bike used the backrest to hold a tire as he went to the garage to get it put on the bike, and the tire chewed through the top of the backrest... so i had to go buy a new back rest off fleabay and it showed up with white thread holding it together instead of the black as the seats have.... but no one notices... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolvenstien Report post Posted June 26, 2007 (edited) I am thinking something along the lines of a carved seat.... and alot of lacing... the passenger seat the same way... a smaller carving related to the larger on the main seat, and then the back rest with a related carving.... looking at a brown center for the carvings and then black all around... what color lacing you think I should go with? black on black is kind of... well.... old..... The bike is chrome, black and blue.... I have not the faintest idea what I would like to put on the seats.... something about wolves... maybe a full body wolf on the main and a head shot on the passenger... and a sky moon shot on the backrest.... just need an artist to draw em up for me... LOL Edited June 26, 2007 by wolvenstien Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
