acrylic paints/dyes to look good with a brush?

[Micah]

thx for all the thought you're putting into this. maybe it was just an isolated incident? I will have to try it out on a different piece of leather, it might have just been the one I was using. Either way, I'm interested in checking out these Ceramcoats, for the price and selection if nothing else!

here's the finished fob, btw. removed the red acrylic (which turned out more orange anyway), and brushed on the black oil dye in its place. on the flip side, which is lined with black velvet pigsuede, there's a little pocket for a guitar pick. side note, you can see the makings of my friend's guitar strap in the background (the extension/adjustment pieces). I took this pic to show him how the black on red/black would look. certainly looks a lot better than the red acrylic did, LOL!

[Beaverslayer]

Well Micah, I think that turned out exceptionally beautiful. I realy like that color, and the white stitching is a beautiful contrast to the rest of it. Great work, and thanks for sharing.

Ken

[Dale]

Thank you Clay! I enjoy being blamed for stuff. Dale doesn't have problems with oil dyes, either. I don't know what kind of paints he uses, but you use the same thing I do. I have mixed spirit dyes and acrylics in the past, but they haven't worn well. When you're doing a picture, there is no wear to it. Maybe that's why Dale didn't have trouble. I made a CD case for my daughter, and the paint immediately started to rub off the horses that I painted.

I have never used Fiebing's acrylics. Clay, maybe you should get some Fiebing's and paint your fish belt and see if it works. If not, you can just carve another fish belt! I know how you enjoy that.

I've used several acrylics over oil dye (I don't think I ever used Cova). I've used Liquitex, but not Ceramcoat (these are what you two are using, right?).

Kathy,

I agree that acrylic doesn't wear well on the functional stuff, but it sounds like you've had a more discouraging experience than I've ever had. I'll try to take a comparison photo and post it later tonight.

[yaklady]

Hey Dale!

I was working with oil dyes and acrylics (Delta Ceramcoat) at work the other day. Thinking about what you said about them, I decided to play a little while the boss wasn't looking. On a piece of scrap leather, I applied light brown oil dye and let it dry. Then I started playing with the acrylics on top of it. I had the same problem that Micah did. The paint looked awful, and I could not get it to do what I wanted it to. You must have the magic touch if you are able to use the two together. I don't have it!

Kathy

[Leather Bum]

Has anyone been able to figure out the cause of the problem? Why can Dale get paint to work over oil dye but the Yak Killer cannot? :scratchhead:

[Dale]

Has anyone been able to figure out the cause of the problem? Why can Dale get paint to work over oil dye but the Yak Killer cannot? :scratchhead:

The only thing I could consider a possible cause is that some reds are "transparent" and require some layering to get a good look. But that doesn't fit the symptoms that were given. I think I'd have to watch the application and see the piece before I could make any reasonable assessment of what the problem is.

Dale

[TomSwede]

Another one with same problem.

Tried Covacolour white over Fiebings red oil dye and it wasn't a pretty sight. Same problems as described above.

Rubbed it off with alcohol and painted over that Fiebings oil dye with ROC gold (spiritbased) instead.

Worked like a charm, results can be seen in my AP bracer post in Show off threads.