Thanks for the reply sir! I am not trying to be obtuse but let me see if I understand. The Tacker will not work at all. I got that part. The Shoe machine might work if it is geared correctly? Most of my Pancake holsters are in the 5-6 oz leather range. Two peices should be well under the 3/8 of an inch. In fact most of my work is well under that, pancake or otherwise. Would you be able to tell via pictures if it is geared correctly? Am I to understand then that a 3 phase will not work at all even with a new motor? Again thank you for your help. I am rereading your post about machines again now.