Huntet02

I never said it was a new pad its not, I did ride the horse with a reinsman wool pad and tightened everything tight the first 4 rides at home (not ten rides but 4...) but this horse is older and for a trail like Medicine lodge I needed the t star pad and tried it also at home but didn't do enough hill work. Plus I said wrong its not 1 1/2" Five star sorry its the 3/4" and its 2 yrs old she's quite used to it.

THank you for the great advice....I'm hearing my friend now who said don't buy a saddle you can't try on your horse first...well no use in explaining all the reasons I did it anyway but I believe you are correct in 1)me expecting the saddle to stay farther forward than it is made to sit, maybe I was expecting it to sit like my older Simco roper did. 2) my husband and I thought the cinch looked too far backward under her belly and so did everyone riding but it was already too close upon withers to move more forward so yes your prabably correct on all accoutns. I lunged her and let nature move things as it would then re-tightened and did this a couple of times before all of us headed out. I did ride this saddle 4 times at home for hours before taking it on this long ride but again I didn't have the kind of hills I encournted. This saddle fit has something to do with my mare not licking that cinch and OR pad where it was bottom line and I"ve got to figure it out...for sure. The buck I recieved cantering uphill was a crazy one. What I remember the most was feeling the pad, this thick pad I've always rode her in sliding backwards where it shouldnt have been I'm sure it goosed her.

JW thanks so much for your reply....I am in Viola KS. I tried to call M.Hunn but her was off work today. Thing is I cannot get my horse and saddle to him anyway. Truck trainee just started acting up on our way home from this trail ride. Where are you located? I need to do something before I cannot return this saddle. I am about 15 SW of the Wichita airport

Thank you for your reply I will surely take some pics of the saddle on the horse tonight and get to you all....we tried placing it way far forward clear up on her mane to see how much it moved backwards and then lunged her and each time it would inch backward....we tried two different pads and the same effect. Dawg gone it but will take pictures tonight and get back with you...

Thank you for your reply I will surely take some pics of the saddle on the horse tonight and get to you all....

Bought a nice Wade 7/8 Plate Rigging 2 wks ago. I wasn't able to try it on my horse before buying but used saddle at home for week or more and things seemed fine UNTIL I this weekend when I went up steep hills. THis weekend while on a mountinous trail ride found out the very hard way that this saddles cinch doesn't stay behind elbows no matter where I put it to start. The saddle and my 1 1/2 inch 5-Star pad all move back when going up a steep hill which caused my good ole reliable mare to go "very western very fast all day long"!! I didn't have a pulling collar on her with this new saddle I just hadn't bought it yet but feel thats beside the point as I don't believe the pulling collar would have done anything to keep the cinch where it needed to be.I've got a problem with the way it fits my horse...YIKES SORRY FINGRE BROKe typing is bad..... anyway after limping home after being bucked off good twice and fighting all the way home we looked at things and found that this new wade saddle and the placement of the front cinch is the main problem. The rigging is direclty underneath instead of up front and high which I know they are placed there to get a better center of gravity but its not working for me and my horse. This is my first "wade" saddle and Ive rode them before but I ordered this saddle through internet given a money back garantee(for little while) but the way this rigging is and my horse high withers it keeps making the pad and cinch slide back to the middle of my mares belly (god knows were the back cinch is then landing) causing mucho spontaneous combustion. So I have a serious problem. I just paid good money for this saddle and trying to figure out my options and need advice badly... Signed worried about my investment