Thanks Rhide and Whiteeugene. To answer your ? the rig you see takes about 30 hours. I have no machine. I sew it all by hand. The designs and patterns are all my own. Never have I bought one. I dont market my work/ I just do it for fun. I have only sold a few on certain occations when some one wanted one for in a parade or some thing special. I made a few for sale to people who hung them in there office or studies. I have done some barters for fancy knifes with big name makers. I started 5 years ago in my garage for something to do. Never had a lesson. No CDs Still learning. I'm 69 years old. I have about 75 rigs, 80 knifes and hawks etc and 200 guns in my collection in my display room. Hope this helps. KT