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Wrong!
As quoted in the details on this web page:
"Extra large bobbins have four times the thread capacity of the Singer 111W, 112W, Class Machines."
Well that's a relief!
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Hi Anne,
I only repair rugs (horse blankets) that have been cleaned. I need the longer head space so I can maneuver the blanket and keep sewing. I'm planning on converting the head to a single needle.
I'm not completely familiar with this machine but most double needle machines have smaller bobbins.
Simply a result of having two of them rather than one. However, if it is a good enough buy it may be worth it.
That being said, if it is that reasonably priced you could use it until you sell it and use the proceeds to buy what
you really would like to have.
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Not sure on the application. I do believe he used it to sew canvas.
Depending on how they're set up; I've seen them used on more than one occasion for boat tarp repair & awning construction.
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I just bookmarked the page. Can't wait to take the virtual tour.
Nice job so far Wiz!!
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I'm jealous. That makes me wish I lived closer by so I could convince you to sell it to me
It wouldn't take much to get me toe sell this machine. I don't particularly need a soling machine; although it stitches pretty good.
It needs some fine tuning is all.
Interesting thing about this machine is it had a wax pot on it that has a gas burner under it.
If you look in the pictures it is the pot behind the bobbin winder.
The hand crank bobbin winder & this gas powered wax pot are connected to the same bracket.
You can see it pretty well in the2nd, 3rd & 4th pictures above. I'll have to flip the winder upside down
& get a pic. of that burner so you'se can see it.
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OK, I went after that sole stitcher It has quite a history surrounding it.
The old boy I got it from is a WWII vet going into assisted living.
30 some odd years ago he got it from a farmer that had the head in the grainery and the
treadle stand he rescued off the rock pile out by the field.
The table top was de-laminated pretty badly so he used it as a pattern to make a new one from plywood.
The old boy that had it in his grainery said it was his Grandpa's. His grandpa used it to repair harness tugs
for himself and the neighbors in the area west of Fargo, ND. That had to be a few years ago.
The story bears true as there is a modified flat plate and foot in a bag of trinkets that came with it; along with
the original tapered plate and sole foot on the machine.
You can't see it in the pics but the feed dogs are tapered to the left; apparently to keep the shoe
or boot from feeding into the needle. This arrangement makes it very difficult to stitch in a straight line with this machine.
The manual bobbin winder is interesting.
Anyway here are a few pics.
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I've learned to say I've has it a long time.
Bob
Bob,
The Management here says you're naughty.
Anyway I got on my knee's and said :begging:and the management buckled!!
I'm going after it tomorrow.
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Yes, the stitch length is adjustable up to 1/4" and it would be worth the price for the treadle alone. To me a " cool boat anchor " is not a slur at all. Kinda like calling a tall guy "Shorty" .
Even a piece of crap machine can have good parts left. With a little TLC this machine might stitch great. Although I love the smell of a new machine, I enjoy the old machine's too. I would grab this machine in a heart beat.
If you do get it, be sure and let us know if it turns out to be an amazing machine.
The management would kill me!!
She's just looked over my shoulder & grabbed me by the ear!!!
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nice machine: congrats.
Have fun being creative.
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I don't see why it need necessarily be a boat anchor. if it uses needles different to the other 45ks then that might be an issue. Do you have any pictures of it? If it were me I'd buy it for the treadle table alone!
This is a beautiful machine there is no doubt. But as big as it is and as far away from home as it is and the fact that it only stitches 1/4" length stitches; I simply can't use it.
I only get home every two weeks; I simply don't want to drive the 125 miles just to pick up a table connected to a piece of junk I'll have to separate & throw away.
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It is for stitching the soles on shoes, up to 5/8" thick. It uses a 214x40 needle.
Are the needles still available for it?
Can round work be done on it other than doing soles or is it job specific?
It's funny; I did boot & shoe work for quite a few years & never heard of it until now.
A shoe soling machine that isn't a needle and awl machine is a little different too.
I wonder how much success Singer had with that idea?
I can pick this thing up complete with treadle table & all for 1 bill.
I'm just wondering if it would be a $100 boat anchor or if it will work OK for some hobby round work.
I need something inexpensive to sew leather bottoms in my canvas packs.
I've been doing it on a flat bed but it's a bit tricky. The seam would come out more professional
looking on a cylinder-arm.
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I know the 45K69 is a cylinder arm machine.
What I can't find is any info on specifications or specific uses
of this machine.
Thanks,
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Since getting a commercially made stand shipped to New Zealand is prohibitively expensive, and I can drive a welder, I've been contemplating making a stand for my 45k (once I've got the damn thing back together again, that is)
An idea that's been stuck in my head for a while is building in the gas prop mechanism from an office chair to let me adjust the height easily. I figure if a gas prop can deal with my fat 110kg butt sitting on it it'll deal with pretty much any sewing machine out there, and they come in all sorts of heights.
That's an interesting idea!
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Seem like I've heard that number before. It may be a K model made in Scotland.
Could be wrong!
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That doesn't exactly help much.....
Here's my deal - I'm not sure whether I need a pedestal stand, or a table, at this point... So I'm shooting in the dark here, and trying NOT to end up buying 2 tables...
I'm wondering if I bought a "table" (as opposed to a pedestal), if I would be able to make an adaptor-piece (out of wood?), to essentially convert from a "cylinder arm machine" (on a cylinder arm table), to a "flat bed" (by adding that piece to the table) ??
Any help is appreciated......
Signed,
Clueless
DenverLeather,
I think most anyone you'll talk to will recommend a stand.
A stand allows the operator to stand and maneuver odd sized objects like saddles, collars & odd shaped bags or luggage
around under the needle. It's harder to do sitting at a table. That's just me!
All you really need to do is figure out what type of work you'll be doing.
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I got me a Singer 29K patcher in a trade, but the treadle stand was missing .
I built a wooden stand for the machine, and also bolted a small sewing machine motor inside.
It is a cheap solution , but it works !
/ Knut
Looks nearly factory!!
Nice job / Knut
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I would be fairly confident that this machine never, ever had reverse.
It weighs about 168 pounds, is a flatbed and could possibly sew through 3/4" of plywood (possibly exaggerating there). It is the monster of machines but probably not what you want.
Darrens got `er pegged pretty solid here. These things are a beast of a flat bed that will sew through nearly anything FLAT. Not scooped and very gradual or square flat corners.
I think the foot is 1-3/4 " long; unmodified it must cover 3/4" material as it passes under the foot.
That said, if it is heavy flat work you are doing it is the right machine. However, if you are building anything with a scoop or delicate corners you'll need another machine for that.
Predominantly these are used today for sewing nylon strapping material, multiple layers of heavy canvas or leather depending on how they are set up.
I see no reference to a 7-3. Not even in the double needle variety. My guess is you didn't get all the digits off the number plate.
There are a lot of them designated 7-3X. Like 7-33, 7-34, etc. they all had there different uses.
Here is a pic of mine in the process of being set up. Set up like you see it here it was sewing through the Sunday Tribune paper doubled over; ads and all without breathing hard.
I'm going to use this one for sewing canvas & leather together in thick, flat work I'm doing.
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Well: it's a different angle isn't it!
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That's a dang nice stand in anyone's book oldtimer. It is functional, stout & pretty to boot.
Like Madmaxx22 just said if you got the time & tools yea . . . do it. However, 300 smackers for a bought & paid for stand isn't bad either.
I've seen them made of wood too; that looked pretty good. They are inexpensive but take a few hours to build.
Just depends on your circumstances I suppose.
Sim
Here is pic of my Adler 205 on a stand I built a couple of months ago. I used 40mm x 40 mm square tubing.
/ Knut
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After nearly 20 years as a saddle maker, I am finally closing my doors. I am headed a new direction and I've decided the only way to get out and stay out is to sell everything off. I have everything from trees, hardware, stamping tools, Adler 205-370, you name it I probably have it.
I purchased the Adler brand new in 1997 and I am the sole owner of it. It runs, sews, and performs A1 just like a brand new machine. Asking $3500.00 OBO (price a new one and you see this is a very fair price) Multiple feet and plates included (you may want to price them too)
I will post pics as soon as I can, email me if you are interested.
Thanks.........Jeff
What ever direction your headed you better take a sewing machine with you. I tried this once and I couldn't leave it alone.
I can't imagine anybody being successful at heading another direction and not ending up with sewing machines at some
point again.
Good Luck,
Sim
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check out zeussmachines.com
With the exception of the Sailrite all I seen were house machines on this site with pics. artistically take to make them look larger than life.
You might be able to sew a zipper in a motorcycle jacket with one of those but you'll probably be cussing before you're through.
I've got a Thompson Mini-walker; which is the same act as a Sailrite basically. With a few differences. It will sew zippers in leather jackets all day long.
However, I bent a lever on it trying to sew through 4 layers of kid skin & 2 layers of thick canvas.
The problem with these light machines is that they will sew just enough to think your doing something; then you come to the end of a zipper
where things are doubled or worse or need to fold over a pocket lid & you end up with multiple layers of material. That's when the fun starts.
Things can turn south in a hurry.
Notice I never even mentioned holsters. They're a whole nuther ball game as wiz so eloquently pointed out.
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I will post some pics when I get her up and going , she looks like she has been well used but taken care of , everything seems tight .
I plan on doing holsters and belts so I figured it would be a good machine to get started .
Pilgram told me that only # 6 awls and needles were available so what would be minimum and maximum thread for that size ??
Thanks for the reply Simran...
Been awhile since I ran one of these but I found the info. on the Cambell/Bosworth web site.
Looks like the #6 awl/needle is rated for 346 in synthetic thread or natural 6 cord.
Here is are links with a little information you may find interesting.
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I'll make this short... but I've been doing as much research as I can on sewing machines for leather. I still feel lost with all of it.
I need something that can handle 2 layers of 8/9 oz leather. I'd like to have the option to use the thickest thread possible. Since I'm working with mostly holsters, I need something that will not mark up my leather.
I don't mind buying used.
I have no preference between a walking foot or cylinder arm machine.
My budget is $1000, but less is always better.
I've been keeping an eye out for a used Tippmann Boss, but I'm not sure....
Considering my bugdet and needs, what would you recommend???
Thanks for the help
I've seen a Chinese knock-off of the 441 on ebay for around $600 new. Now granted I know nothing of these machines;
there may be other s here that do know. Maybe they will chime in. I'm not sure they are worth the $600!
Also, I've seen Servo motors on ebay for around $150. Maybe one can be bought for less elsewhere; not sure.
If you are a little creative and handy with your hands you could built a table out of plywood & 2X4's and join the two together and get in under your mark.
The generic GA5-1 I've seen on Ebay looks just like the one Techsew sells but looks can be deceiving especially in the sewing machine dept.
It would be nice if someone that has bought one of these Chinese knock-off's would chime in with a review of these machines.
If you could save up another $5xx and take a good hard look @ the Techsew You may be happier because of the service you'd get.
Especially if you are a beginner.
Older machines can be bought for a song if you can wait . . . .& . . . .wait . . . .& well you know the drill. But then you are taking a chance
on getting a machine that needs tinkering.
I'm the kind that can wait til the dog goes to sleep to steal his bone. If he doesn't go to sleep I wait . . .until he either eats the bone or goes to sleep.
Not everyone is up to that.
I do know that "he that gets in a hurry pays to much."
Things to consider.
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I used Marvel Mystery oil on the one I had; but not sure it matters all that much. Those things are built like a tank.
BTW they make one of the most beautiful stitches I've ever seen. I used mine for sewing side seams on western boots & some tack repair.
If you don't need a deep throat stitcher you can't beat these machines.
Post some pics if you get a chance.
Good Luck.
Singer Long Neck
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It's interesting that they'd put two of those big bobbins in this flatbed.
There must be a whole fistful of hardware under the table of one of those things.
I'd love to see one.