BoDill

Thank you. I will check all this out, and because of the response to this request, I'll post my findings if successful. Bo

Rickeyfro, Thank you for your quick reply. I have already gotten a couple double butts from Zack White. They are very close to what I am looking for, and if I can't find what I want, I will likely start using the ZW stuff. Bo Mcox, Thank you; I will contact RJF Leather soon. Bo

Sylvia, Technically you are correct; double bend and double butt are not identical terms, but both are used interchangeably in the industry. If you Google both terms, you will find pretty much the same responses. From now on, in any communications about this, I will use both terms in my letters, as either cut will work for me. Thank you for your reply, Bo

Bluesman, Thank you for the quick reply. Actually, I already do business with Wickett and Craig, but they don't do double butts. Sides are fine for my handbags, but the Double butts were unbelievable for belts. BoDill

New member in search of new supplier. Back in the 60's, working my way through college making sandals, I used to get spectacular double butts from Marap in NY. Getting back in the business after retiring from 40 years of engineering, I bought the same leather from Hide House in their old San Dimas location. Hide house no longer handles that leather, and Marap doesn't list a website and they probably don't carry it any more. After using up the last 20 hides that I had, I have looked for another supplier with no luck. I have purchased double butts and double backs from Herman Oak, Zack White, and Weaver. Thought the leather is OK, it is not the same as the stuff I was using. For one, it was true "10 oz", measuring 0.16 inches thick with a micrometer. The hides averaged about 20 sq. ft.. On top of that, the flesh side was almost as smooth as the top grain, and the top grain was absolutely smooth all over with no bumps or skin lines. The best part was the way it cut and folded. It cut like butter, and you could fold it over without it cracking. I have no idea where to turn to get leather like this again, and I am terribly frustrated. Any suggestions? Thank you, Bo Dillingham Old Man Leather, LLC www.oldmanleather.com