I bought a New Kingmax 441 and traded my Artisan. It's is alot smoother machine. But the dealer in denver had all kinds of used leather machines. When i was there they had used Nels, Cowboy, Adler, Singer machines. The nice thing about these people is they carry parts. Thats Important!!!! There is alot of companies selling new equipment or used equipment and don't have the attachments to make your work easier. They also customized my feet and made it in there machine shop. Call them! 1-800-525-0330 or email them there website is www.kingmax.us.com