walter roth

Hello fivewayswelshcobs.................. I've made many saddles. But non-English ...sondern French. Which differ in the saddle pad they are associated, but made extra and felt and then covered with leather with the inner leaves of the saddle. But otherwise they are built, such as the English on strained wood trees. It delighted of course, if the articles you find here interesting...((((-: Yes, bone glue smells somewhat strictly, and if it is old in the form of plates, he smells a little more. Earlier could not be clean produce glue as they are today, that old bone glue is a little bit better. But as I said, I'll try whether you can hold liquid with "Isoprophylalkohol", so that you can always take it out of the bottle and use. The alcohol then completely covered the smell of bone glue. Pots for hot glue can be found everywhere, every Carpenter had used as a pot. I found my 3 at flea markets and old Saddlers. Here are some links. A product by the way, comes from the United States, but even the Chinese make which then of course very cheap at the price. http://German.Alibaba.com/product-GS/professional-mini-glue-pot-hot-glue-pot-hot-melt-glue-pot-1129483718.html http://www.deffner-Johann.de/elektrischer-leimtopf-hold-HEET-65-c-Kupfer-900-ml-MIT-Deckel.html It is written with........ "Hold Heet Glue Pot, EMCO Electric Co. made in Chicago IL." Here are just a little expensive in the Switzerland, you should be much cheaper. I use the little oven as shown on the picture, which is but already a great model with a capacity of approx. half a litre. The small burner with petroleum is sufficient as a heating system. I think this small oven have used also mainly the Sattler, because Carpenter needed much larger amounts. They were often right large wood stoves in combination with Heisleimbehältern. Here a very nice model. https://www.oldfashion.ch/wohnzubehoer/oefen/leimofen1701006.php Also, the book binder and the Gilder and many other craftsmen needed bone glue. http://Kleinanzeigen.eBay.de/anzeigen/s-Anzeige/alter-tischler-leimtopf/140104065-240-910 Greeting Walter

Hi leather craftsman... Now something about the bone glue. The edge gloss I've bought here in the Switzerland always, which was bottled in bottles and stayed thin. He could heat up at normal temperatures without be used at any time. In the gloss, bone glue was solved with ...... Isoprophylalkohol. May be an addition of 2-5 % was... ( 40% vinegar acid ) mixed with. The acetic acid prevents bone glue is hard, but can be which is not necessary in the Isoprophylalkohol. I'll test it yet. It would be anyway, quite interesting if you could mix so tried and true edges shine itself, so that he at any time, cold out of the bottle, can be used. Greeting Walter

Hi leather craftsman... So, with much delay now what on the topic of bone glue to the shine of the leather edge. First I must say, that we do not with something shiny Sattler which edges which are in daily use to peel or a hard layer wears on. With bags manufacturers such as Louis Vuitton, you can see that very often, namely that they the edges with a thick varnish shine. A Saddler but does not make it, he wants so that its edges are water repellent, but remain flexible and not everywhere, where the strap through the buckle goes through, be quickly ugly because the paint is crumbling. So the edges are very nice with bone glue, and the better to prepare the edges, they become the more beautiful. When individual pieces can clean edges off them, good sanding, moisten several times and again after they grind something. But now to the promised recipe for bone glue. )))) 50 grams of bone glue and 1.2. dl water. (((((( Bone glue I used here, is Perlenförmig, but already to ground. I was the glue beads slightly crushed with a hammer. No matter in what form, is there 50 gr. Glue beads it into a container of copper, aluminium, glass or porcelain and 0.12 liters water. That lets you soak. Depending on grain size between 15 minutes and 3 hours. He is so crushed in my photos that takes only 15 minutes. the glue should not in a vessel made of iron be warmed, because it reacts with iron and is black. I did it in my old oven of glue, which is made of copper. Earlier all joiner used for its hot glue these ovens. If it is swollen, so is there oven in the glue water, preferably hot water from the faucet or from the kettle. To set small glue pot use in the water, then the small burner ignites. This old here with me, which is filled with lamps Peroleum. But also a burner with alcohol is good to use. He burns with petroleum just very long and it takes very little petroleum. The flame is very small set and place it in the oven. After about 15 minutes, bone glue is hot and pretty thin. Bone glue should never really Cook, but only on ))) maximum 65° ((( heated, he changed otherwise and is worse in its properties. Now simply drag with a felt piece apply to the lederkannte and the belt through the gloss cloth. That is done knew. You can something increase the amount of water or somewhat less water, that can test each one of you itself. If you cool the glue, then he is like gelatin. It dries the time from and is then again like a chunk of wax. He can warm up again at any time, but with a little water and can be used with new. As long as he is but gelatin-like, only just newly warm until he is pretty fluid, and already, it can be used again. Sometimes it can also happen that the glue begins to mouldy before it has completely dried. Want to prevent that so one can admit 5% - 10% of the weight of the glue in Glycerin. For 50 gr. Glue ....... so 2.5 - 5 g Glycerin. Glycerin to preserve, and also softens the glue. Greeting Walter. ...by the last picture you can see how bone glue into the glue pot has cooled down, ...er does not fall out.

Hello If you the thread with wax treated, ......considering the only over the wax, ready. Only when the pitch you runs the thread through a cloth to make the pitch warm and he penetrates in the thread. So with the cloth you can save that you grow. Greeting Walter

Hy guys. New Zealand...Hmmmm, pretty far away. Well, I would've taken probably normally even bitumen as a word for pitch. But really, pitch would have been. I use although a Trabnslater, but only to the control. But it is, can be not well corrected what you write, as you can see over the mistakes often. Well, learn again correct English would be just said...(((-: But honestly, I would make fine seams for wallets and use synthetic thread. But twisted thread, not braided. The braided thread is no beautiful seam. Such work would be very suitable a Campbell thread, because the seam looks best. In Campbell, the number 12 in something would be the right thing for you. Campbell is synthetic in the core but without cotton. But take wax with stearin, which is better than with Prafin. Greeting Walter Oh yes, anything else because of the polishing of the edges. Qwe sattler used a cloth 40 x 40 cm. Should be as thick and made of linen. I wet the at the beginning of something with edges gloss and then he is it longer in the use is ...umso better. With time, the cloth is quite smooth and the edge polishing is always better. I mostly use my polishing cloth so 5-7 years, no longer usable until they are all frayed points, then I take a new cloth. Greetings Walter

Hello guys... I just read that you have a problem with stitching. Linen or even cotton thread should never used without them before with bad luck and wax to handle. Untreated they hold and are sensitive to abrasion. If I have understood it correctly with my poor English, the seams are after a short use already not more beautiful. Forms as Macca said, if you use synthetic thread, you more easily can sew it only grow so, without he always knot it. If you use linen thread, you must first treat him with bad luck. To do this, take a yellow (pine tar) or just black with black thread pitch, (beech wood tar) and pulling the thread through the tar. It is well a tarred, twice taking the thread, wrapping him around 2 fingers and that depends on the thread loop in one end of hacking at the wall. Take a piece of canvas of linen and fold it so that it fold 2 is. In every fold, put a thread and rub it back and forth until the pitch of the thread is warm and indents in the thread. The thread is thus quite wiry. To the sew well through yet pull the wax so that it no longer sticks to your fingers, ...wegen bad luck. They call this kind of thread pitch wire. Previously used I still often with hemp thread, raised especially for heavy, and with linen for fine sewing. Later, I switched to "Campbell" thread. So a thread with a synthetic core and overspin with cotton, which gives that beautiful seams. Because I wachste only. Bad luck is not needed, unless you want to make him somewhat wiry. By the way, ...reinen beeswax used the Sattler never used. They melted the wax up and gave into some stearin or paraffin also. With stearin or paraffin which not so hard wax after cooling, depending on the amount of fat given to, he will be softer or harder. To the work it is more pleasant when the wax is slightly softer. Formerly called this operation on German...(the wax leaving out) in English maybe "to render" called...(((-: hoffe ich hab das richtige wort erwischt...))((-: Stearin is white in color usually a way to buy block, and melts at about 60-70°. It is made mostly from animal fat. It is used to produce so-called "burnt leather" until today. So leather which after the tanning room be heated in one at approximately 60 ° and be immersed for a few seconds in liquid stearin, that burn like leather tanners to says. The leather is then completely greased through and can determine a stearin paraffin mixture which hardness of leather. Paraffin is a petroleum product. So guys...It tried. Greeting Walter PS: And KiwiLetherLearner, take not too thick thread and large stitches. Maximum stitch for a belt size 8 use, better 10 he stitches per inch. And of course this is sink the stitches "on the back" always a good Thing.

Hi leather craftsman... Fast times here what klenies, what I just did. I bought this oval Dixon hole last week, they were rusted but strong. Now I made them clean and they have become very useful. I have enough hole iron, but it was still a shame to them. Are still of the old style, that is to say, they were flat forged in such as pricking irons, then forged around a mandrel and forged together in the fire. Finally has sharpened them outside and brought in the form. But now they are very smooth and the hole parts leather fall out light. Greeting Walter

Hi Ray... The "Oeschs" are not so well known in the Appenzell region here in Europe already. Yes, we Appenzell believe that we make the best folk music. This is also so superb musicians, such as the Alders and the "Alderbuebe". http://www.alderbuebe.ch/ Click on the page Troy and then start the player. they are very good especially with the violin. I like the best title no. 12. This music played in my brother's wedding. The "boys" are now even staunch fathers and grandfathers. You are versed in "Classical music" and exceptionally good in this folk music. I personally like the "Hackbrett" love most. (English probably hammered dulcimer) I think also the Appenzell costumes from Appenzeller Woman ( Festtagstracht ) some of the most beautiful in Europe. But there is only the 70'000 in two cantons of Appenzell, nothing more. Greeting Walter

Hi leather craftsman... Finally, the images of my leather edges polishing apparatus. But as I said, I use only for small things and such you are swinging at belt tips, etc. Belt I prefer with the polishing cloth by hand and hang with the belt usually on the hole for the buckle pin on a hack on the wall. I have now finally once again prepared the machine that made it new material and left a piece of wood I sometimes can work with after a belt hole inflicted. I had just no suitable boxwood more, so I took this just a piece of olive wood...((((-: But as I said, growing to the plaster I use never, so I've eingewachst here only the wooden parts. Who wants to build something yourself, the engine power is quite small, very cheap to have the engines. I think, so $100 would suffice for the motor. This is a motor of the German company "Bauknecht", a famous washing machines manufacturers. It is a normal three-phase motor with 0.18 kilowatts of power and provided with a thermal protection. He makes 2800 rpm, and the v-belt can reduce about speed to 50%. The shaft is left and right set of ball bearings easily with 2 pressed ball bearings. Greeting Walter

Hi... I will show you that with photos, but it goes a few days until I have time to do so. Car Charlie... To work with the glass is almost just as fast as with the machine and it is very easy. Only strongly curved shapes are better to grind with the machine. Charlie, what is a Filiteuse ?? .....I don't understand the word and can't find it in the Internet also. Greeting Walter

Hi Guys............... Here in the Switzerland it has used probably always bone glue CEN long as edge gloss. Even in the modern edge gloss products bone glue is always the "main part", already resolved, so he cold can be processed ...allerdings and without you first must warm him. What they use as a solvent, that I would have to ask once. Unfortunately, they have made smaller the proportion of bone glue in the product, thus he was ever watery and worse in the result. Bone glue should not too thick, but thin ...aber still not as thin as water. Check it out einml, it works fine and the edges are fragile... I never had this problem. However I'm also repeatedly carrying on bone glue. Some leather craftsmen edges gloss apply several times to get a perfect result ...und do it sometimes too much of a good. Bone glue is always the color of amber and is still in the form of beads to buy. Finished products are only suitable if they were made for leather processing. But I think, as a glue for wood used long him nobody. And as I said, you can give to some Glycerin to make bone glue something rubbery. I'll take a recipe, something as soon as I take but time did. Containing Glycerin, water and glue. Greeting Walter

Hi guys... I got. I read here about the manufacture of beautiful edges. I will even say that I always the color sanding after which edges wear, because later takes the color no longer good edge, if you wax to the shine is, or even if you the edge with a wheel made of wood has edited to make them smooth. So only the color, then use the burnisher. Usually only apply after the edges luster. By the way... Edited when you stamp the leather with the leather and the leather to wets, what are you doing when you get these black stains on the leather...??? Here in the Switzerland used the same resources that it takes to make the black stains on parquet away then. We take about 96% - known oxalic acid, (Common wood sorrel Acid ...??? ) under the name "Sauerkleesalz" = German Lhangwich, (oxalic acid) or sugar acid (saccharic acid) ...."Zuckersäure" in German Lhangwich. Black handle stains away within seconds, but only as long as the leather is still wet. 1 Tea Spoon sugar acid dissolve in 1 dl water and it is finished. Greeting Walter

Tor.............. I thought that to myself. But glass is better. By the way, is used to apply the bone glue on the Lederkannte traditionally a piece of thick felt, so 2 x 6 cm and 1.5 cm thick. There are such residues at the traditional Saddlers usually always enough. Greeting Walter

 Hi guys... Post 2 Edges Polishing. So, if you now well prepared the edges, so it tints it. I used to do this so far still colors from Spain, ...die 20 years but can't get...)))-: But, the called "Teinture française" was produced in Spain. This color was mixed on Almond öel basis and she was extremely good. In other words, you could color black edges and they wear on white fabric without that she dyed off. They existed in many colors. Titled, there's still a color, but it has to do more with the earlier nothing. Today I am using almost none more oil dye as you know them well, and because I have the Spanish only for very special. After the color, take edges gloss and pulls the belt through a piece of cloth made of thick canvas it is holding in his hand. So 5-10 times what they do. Edges shine as I mostly use it to this day, it is unfortunately something that no longer exists. It was a loose bone glue. That is, he was succeeded as hot glue with a liquid so you cold always could use him if you wanted to. What was the solvent, I don't know that. Earlier, you often use "Gum", a tree resin which was resolved to an adhesive German: http://de.wikipedia..../Gummi_arabicum English: http://commons.wikim....org/wiki/File: Gomma_arabica.png Rubber Gum Arabic can dissolve in water and is actually a glue. If he is more diluted, called it here at the Saddlers just "Rubber water", and used it as a edge gloss. Easier you did it with hot glue or bone glue as you used it since ancient times already. I used to be always the old glue plates from old stock. The old plates are somehow better than the new glue beads, but the difference is maybe more in the good ratio of glue to the water. To make bone glue, you need a glue pot. Here the modern version with thermostat. http://www.deffner-J...MIT-Deckel.html http://www.Kleelux.d...ilings/LEIM.htm Bone glue in Pearl today... http://www.Kleelux.d...ilings/LEIM.htm Earlier in plates... http://www.eBay.de/I...=item58a57ed963 http://www.eBay.de/I...=item53fe1642fc Here something to do how to process bone glue in German language, there are also in English. http://www.lederkram...hp?go_to_this=/ category.php? cat_ID = 885 & anchor = undefined So, bone glue in sheet form it shatters into small pieces and place them in the pot with water. The water should barely cover the pieces and leave there some time it until they become soft. It is like with the gelatin in the cakes make... ((- ) Then the whole thing on "warm", "do not cook", but to the whole thing will be only liquid. In addition, the pot of glue in a "Bain-Marie" has to be heated. So the pot in a larger pot with water to and then on top of the stove. That is as far as you must check only whether it is liquid enough. If not simply some more water. It should be beautifully fluid but not as thin as water. The glue pots today keep bone glue at approx. 60-65 ° of hours and you can always work. The Sattler it must be but just so hot that he remains pretty liquid. The old models have a small burner with alcohol or even petroleum down. Where you must regulate itself with the wick and flame height. The glue were the Lederkannte apply and shine with a rag. So take the Riemern immediately by the hand with the cloth. He will be leaving after working to cool the bone glue, ever to thick to a "jelly-like" mass. Simply heat the next time and possibly some more water. You can however not forever keep the glue, it begins to smell and rotting. The new today are as but less tricky, they were produced much cleaner as you made it earlier. If there are some "Glycerin" it lasts longer and is a little smoother. Oh yeah, warm bone glue in the copper or aluminium pot, because otherwise he is dark and that's not good in brown leather. Bone-glue reacts with iron and turns dark. And Bone-glue smells sometimes somewhat strictly, but usually only at the old plates glues, today are very clean, but what brings no benefits to the application, old glues were just a little different. Bone glue edges are, if one has learned it even the most beautiful that exists. So if not hope that suffices, it writes, then I'll make time a prescription with grams and liters and Aufweichen time, cooking time, etc. I've never written it down, but always only just made the wrist...((-: Greeting Walter

Post 1 .........Edges Polishing. Hi Guys.............. So that edges polishing... I will try it if I can't describe with my English((-: I actually thought that was still widely known. So, if one makes the belt with 2 layers and has sewn so it grinds today the edges often using a grinding machine. For example, I often use this one... http://www.westerntool.com/Makita-1-1-8-inch-x-21-inch-vs-belt-sander.html He can handle well in the vise clamp. Earlier, you made this work but with the "shards" (glass shards). You took a piece of window glass, and cut it to size with the glass cutter into small pieces so 6 x 3 cm. Cut the glass there but only an edge that cuts really well, that is the "lower". Because the "top" of it carved a using a glass cutter is of course no longer intact and so also not sharp. With the sharp side of the glass is now pulled off the double strap leather edge and equalised, - beautiful flat made. This one stretches the straps in the stitching horse and pulling the glass at a slight angle com light pressure on the edge of the leather. You will see that the glass edge is very sharp and well cuts away the leather, without that you damaged the belt or embrasures makes immediately recognize how the angle must be, you will become. Editing makes a smoother edge with the glass as it is possible with the machine. Greeting Walter

Hi Tor... So the apparatus to the edge polishing use we share here mostly for the small, the curved shapes and the tip of the belt. The apparatus with a polishing head is also inadequate, because the traditional Sattler has always "black" and "Brown" leather, he needs so always 2 machines or 2 polishing heads. One for Brown and one for black, because black leather is processed very often at the Sattler. May also be that waxes for the edges are, I've never used this. I dekne already that this inventions are of leather craftsmen have learned the craft itself and which do not know the old methods. Greeting Walter

Hi Tor... I will add pictures when I finish the edge polishing machine. Front and rear I must attach 2 new wooden parts and the rubber rollers are covered with fabric. This means that they be repaired only with a strip of cloth. The rubber rollers are just more flexible as the wooden rollers. Also, one plastered the leather edge usually with a cloth. (the plaster cloth or polishing cloth) So only edges down, then grind or if they are double, with the beautiful the color on it and "edge shine"... equalised shards of glass, ....Gum Arabic or .....hot glue ( bone ) on it and with the cloth ( linen ) by the hand drawn. So is Yes at the Sattler of the edge of the leather shiny made plastered and shcön... And so bearbieten clean can also special contours, the rubber rollers rubber were made with us and under the rubber is also a spring which makes it more elastic. She hugs the contour of the edge even better where it is soft. But as I said, I have now revised my machine, when it is done the images come. Greeting Walter

Hi Tor... I think I'll dea heating Creassers a part of a soldering iron use. See here ...... http://at.rs-online.com/web/p/lotkolben-zubehor/0662002/ To do this you can just a matching drilled hole in the shaft make and that part insert. Now you must regulate only its performance with a Dimer in the cable and already fas should work. Unfortunately the current you can from the wave out where it appears one of the best. Greeting Walter

Hi Tor... Can some with such a massive frame sure do. I'm just to make 2 of the machines. However I have not dealt even with the heating element, that comes later. I'm on the green machine. There that are inserted into the upper shaft heating cable, it of like with a soldering iron and is controlled in the heat of a Dimer. (Switch on the cable with red button) So 2 months these 2 things should be done. You give not a lot of work, but I also only occasionally have time to work. If you are waiting for something, then I will provide the data to the heating element you. I have here enough companies who can advise me there. I was now ready for the belt tensioner, see previous post, now I'll make the Creasser machines...(((-: Greeting Walter

Hi Guys... Still, a work which I have just completed. Here in the Switzerland, there are few Saddel producing for French saddles.French they say here because they have separate saddle pad,... are not connected with the inner leaves of the saddle. I do not think that we have someone here in the blog has the experience with the production of saddles, but I want to show you yet. Belts tensioners are on the images, they are used to harness the saddle trees made of wood. Exactly how, I'll show you sometime. One unit is about 100 years old, you can find it in Blanchard catalogues from the 19th century. The other two I have modified something, but taken over the fine style of the old devices. I think I managed quite well and share that are now quite beautiful and it is a pleasure to use something. I myself have made the technical sketches. The parts I did have to cut with the laser and a mechanic has made the spring and screws. Then I browned the pieces and galvanized gloss and black. Sure it would have been better I would have hard-chrome-plated everything Durit-Method, but I like it just when it looks classic. The two devices in the background I will meet in the next ready to revise and adjust you here too. It is a device which the Saddler used at the heavy canvas the hems on the edges to folding, and the folding of to prägen. The other device with the rubber roller is a leather-edge polishing machine. The device which Weaver offered today, which was used exactly here 5 decades ago. This apparatus is now 30 years old. I will make it yet, and then add photos here. The rubber rollers are still without cover and there are still 2 parts because. I've used all that often, and it was not nice enough to show it to you. But there are already... Greeting Walter

Hey guys... Thanks for the praise, I hear something very happy. The knife of Blanchard is actually in the quality still like 30 years ago, when I the first time one bought there. Only the brand of "Vergez-Blanchard" is very poorly made, she went for the Polish almost alone away. So Reto, I hope you enjoy it. Greeting Walter

Hi leather craftsman... Here is what titled "Reifeln", or in English...Creassing. I went to a colleague today and used the opportunity these machines for you to shooting. Here a machine in green color, she once was mine, and I've sold them... Unfortunately...))-: ...vor about was 15 years. Well, in addition 2 models that are older, but there are all Swiss products seen here since the 1920 he years. The machine easily and very easy to use sin, also they have a heater for the roles above the lines into the leather press. Below is the transport roller, turn the upper rollers not at the turn of the crank. Now I'm just to build 2-3 of such machines. If a SADDLER for example driving lines to the coaching makes, then these devices are super convenient, easy and continuously in the width adjustable. Also, you can insert the 1 or 2 lines of course roles or draw wider / finer. At Weaver's are models that spread with the firm, the big heavy things Yes the old industry. I find the machines good and interesting, but they are not really good to use for the traditional Sattler. So it looks at you. Greeting Walter

Hello Macca... Yes, that is so. However, it is also again exhausting, because every time must you again teach how to do it and what not to do to people. You must include also the culture of the time, when one makes such a vehicle. This is very important especially with the coaches. There, the substance of the Interior with the wardrobe of women had to earlier harmony which resulted in practice often it were certain coaches equipped with black fabric. To black, everything matched the. Often, clients want to do, that simply do not belong on a historic vehicle. Either car much to luxurious, like those, or much too easy for others, halt, depending on the customer. These old things have a culture, and the craftsmen had their ways of working, you should always understand that. The fabric of the roof with Staples not fasten on to a vehicle, but with nails we used. Well, the car that I failed, the customer wanted to listen to me. But the pad will look so bad years in 2-3 that it must be made new. The venture Yes now often used, he has been to the 100 km. behind him, in his second life. According to the logbook, he needed already 33 hours of engine running time for the 100 km...((((((((((((-: I have made so far about 30 coaches and some cars, all but vehicles in 1914. I don't do those after 1914. For me nothing new anymore, but there is always something to learn. I did often forge work themselves in carriages. Because forging that fine work are very rare today and car forge there is no more. Well, over the last 30 years many of the artisans are died I needed work for the very good. At some point it will then probably to end be, not because of me, but because I miss the other craftsmen to do so. To restore this truck it needed about 30 different craftsmen, all specialists and professionals so today not being trained. Many here still have them know which introduced at the learn their profession before 40 / 50 years ago, by then already ancient craftsmen were told. Greeting Walter

Hi leather craftsman... today I was at a small party to inaugurate this newly restored truck of the Swiss firm of Saurer from 1912. It was very nice there. You have extra beer bottles with the truck as Made label, to which also fit the invitation card, and it gave a lecture on the history of the company of Saurer. Even the tablecloths were specially printed with images. This car was waiting since 1977 on his restoration, but until 2003, it went off. Now after 8 years he has fought. In other words, the trailer that is still missing, ...aber will be ready years also in 1-2...((-: It took 8 years because it only took 5 years to make the Acacia wood for the spokes of the wheels dry. I worked only slightly on the vehicle, I did the belt works, and I was supposed to do the roof. I made but to the condition I the roof do, I can do very bad upholstery work on the car once again new. Because the car Sattler who first made it, which was a beginner. He has not understood the way of work dating from 1912, and also badly executed the work. Well, they wanted now must quickly finish the car after 8 years, for they now have a canvas roof that doesn't fit to the vehicle, and a lousy cushion on it. But there are now only a few people who can even recognize such defects. Well, anyway, I thought it is certainly quite interesting to see some pictures for you. The Wagner who made the wheels and the wooden structure of the car, who is a colleague of mine. He is an excellent professional man. He built the Gotthard mail coach to looking at the following link with his father, it was the first coach I've equipped the Sattler and it was also the first carriage leather tops you I made. https://www.Google.c...5&DPR=1#imgdii= _ http://www.gotthardp...h/index.php/de/ These mail coaches were used around the turn of the century to drive particularly the Gotthard with wealthy tourists over the Alpine passes. It was tourism, but because it was at that time already the Gotthard tunnel with the railway. Rich Englishman paid over 100 years ago but already good money, to marvel at the way the mountains of Switzerland. The car is rolling now for over 25 years and has withstood everything. Greeting Walter

Hello macca... The curved plates at the plough, to 90%, were always so and so made by the manufacturer. Very rarely seen just Straight plates, because the curved are simply better to handle. Straight plate practicing more pressure, because Lakshmi in straight plate of the belt is different. If one part that screws apart, recognizes it lightly it didn't as the manufacturer. straight or curved. Greeting Walter