If I recall correctly they're in the $70 range normally from Packer, so it'll at least be cheaper than that. Depending on the level of interest and what they can work out it might be as low as 10% off, or as high as 50%. I've even seen up to over 80% off on certain products, but I think that's abnormal. Most range from 10-40% off. And right now it's just voting, not buying. And we need 200 votes before they'll approach the company so spread the word.