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Hi I cannot find a name of this type of double cap rivet. Basically, I want a rivet where the 2 pieces of leather that are joined can swivel around the rivet stem / are free to move not are fixed as you would normally get with a double cap rivet. Any ideas?

yes, that is what I am doing - putting a ton of steel wool in the mixture now.

I see. Many thanks

I think I have found the answer - once you have dyed the leather with it then you let it dry and then soak a couple of times in strong bicarb of soda solution then rinse with water and then wax. I'll post back once have tried it.

Hi, I love the colour of the finished, vinegarooned black leather but I am a bit disappointed as I secured rivets into the leather and they went rusty. Is this the acidity of the vinegar (I have maybe not put in enough steel wool into the vinegaroon jar) or is this just a fact of life when using this dye that all your metal wear goes rusty that is in contact with the leather? The leather was dry as well not wet with the dye.

Hi, I have seen people's leather work using black leather and all their hardware, the metal bits are black. Does anyone know of how to do this or can I just use a good enamel black spray paint. I am just thinking, how do you get a paint that does not rub off the hardware as it's shiny metal?

and of course you have the problem of custom mixing a dye for the edges if you cut the pieces out of the dyed shoulder.

Here www.claytonleather.com Current Prices are as follows Modern Bridle Shoulders – sizes 50 x 24”, approx. 10 sqft (subject to availability) GBP £5.50 per sq.ft Any Custom Coloured Modern Bridle shoulders – GBP £6.50 sq.ft All prices are ex works and are subject to carriage & vatCurrent Prices are as follows Modern Bridle Bends – sized 54 x 24”, approx. 10 sqft GBP £8.50 per sqft Any Custom Coloured Modern Bridle - GBP £10.00 per sq.ft Oh yes and the minimum order is 100sqft

Thanks David for the info. It's something to think about in the future because the drying of the dyed hide needs flooring space and I don't have a big warehouse to lay out the hides. They said they dip dye mostly but if it's really bright colours then they have to spray it I suppose. Custome colours are £8 per square foot for a shoulder so that's $13 per square foot. A undyed shoulder here in the uk costs £50-60 and then the paint on top. I reckon if you have a business getting someone else to do the dyeing is preferable.

Hi, I just rang a tannery up and they say they can custom colour a 2mm shoulder including the leather for around £70! If an undyed shoulder cost £50-£60 and paint costs around £25 then it doesn't make sense anymore to dye your hides yourself! She is getting back to me on the specifics but said they charge £6 a square foot for custom colours.

Another thing I forgot to add is it is a bit flimsy as in it's a very basic bit of kit and in the instructions it tells you that the gland nut will wear out and need to be replaced. It is not built like a proper car spray gun. But I would prefer this thing because I can always replace the parts as the company is very helpful / has a good reputation or when it packs up, for the price and can go and buy another one.

Hi, I have now tested the Earlex diy spray station with Angelus acrylic paint thinned down to the right consistency and have found that this machine works great! There is hardly any overspray and it sprays out an even pattern / mist of paint which you can adjust so theres either a lot of paint coming out or hardly any at all so it's a very fine mist. I noticed the trigger gets stuck a bit but that's easy to fix. All in all I am very happy with this purchase and cannot wait to use it on some leather as I only tested it out on some pieces of cardboard. The only problem with it is the fan motor is quite loud like a loud hoover.

Right, I have bought one of these flaming Earlex machines now for £60 and will post back on here the results in a few days.

I have read a lot of reviews of this product now and most people are raving about it and one person even said it can do a very fine mist too. The alternative is an air compressor and spray gun - for the one I want (HVLP Gravity Fed Spray Gun Professional by Bergen AT013) that holds around 600ml capacity of liquid you need a compressor of at least 2hp and really a 50 litre tank to best run this, as will need around 6-8 cdm. That air compressor however starts at around £150 and the spray gun is £30. So £180 in total which is not expensive for as DavidL says for longevity it's worth it, but I want to try this Earlex as it just seems so easy to use and to clean you just spray thinners through it into a bucket. Can anyone clear things up? I just reason if I am having to do 5 coats of thinned acrylic paint onto leather I just want the least hassle possible solution. With the Earlex maybe I won't even have to thin it that much as the video guidelines show the ideal viscosity as being that of the angelus acrylic paint. Like you say DavidL this is a hit or miss option.

Yes DavidL you are absolutely right. I have gone for the cheapest option before and regretted it (many times!). I will investigate and post back. As you have probably guessed I am CLUELESS about this topic so this forum and the web are my only ways of finding things out. I will post back with the results of my findings. But having said that, we just want to get the paint down onto the material in a fine mist in the easiest way possible.

Hi, I have found a spray gun with electric sprayer not compressor that is inexpensive and looks like it does a nice job. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Earlex-Paint-Spray-Station-1900/dp/B000V1YIT2

Hi nice pictures! Colt W Knight - what size is the spray gun you are using and what kind of air compressor do you use?

Hi Gump, do you find the 100cc cup is enough to work with or does it get used up really fast and also do you have to do several coats of acrylic because it has to be thinned to be useable? Say for if you do 2 shoulders.

Thank you for that Gump. Much appreciated.

Hi Gump, can you tell me the make of your spray gun model at all please as I am having trouble finding a touch up spray gun that does more than 3"? You say your's does upto 6-8" which is what I am looking for.

ok great.

Thanks David, I will look into things now. Yes, I read it in an interview with her - she started selling on etsy 1 piece then it became 2/3 then more and then she said when she started her blog then things really started changing for her.

So your touch up spray gun worked with acrylic paint and a cheap air compressor or what was your set up Gump? because I have just been reading an article that says you need a very powerful machine costing £1000 at least to spray acrylic paints.

Touch up spray gun? That sounds like another great idea. thanks.

Hi David thank you for your reply. That's interesting what you are saying about an additive. If there was such a thing that would be great. I like the sound of your patches of leather idea / setting up an business on Etsy in the future it sounds weird. Weird = good. I am also thinking about starting a shop on Etsy UK in the future making bondage harnesses. You can do really well on there. That's where Zana Bayne the leather / bondage / accessories designer started selling her stuff and look at her now - she's a fully fledged backed fashion label! I will check out your shop in the future as it sounds interesting and will let you know when I have some things made to sell also.