CyberBadger Report post Posted July 24, 2022 Hi all - I've wanted to get back into leatherwork and recently picked up a small patcher with the intent of using it for smaller home projects. It seems to have been well-maintained, and was in use by an older gentleman until relatively recently. I believe it might be a Kochs Adler 'Universal Elastic' - at least 'Universal' is visible on the paint remnants. Unfortunately I'm worried I may have overpaid as I cannot get it working properly. I'm a bit limited with what's locally available as I don't have a car & I wanted something smaller that doesn't rely on electricity, but I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake here... I thought that it was just incorrectly threaded - but now I'm wondering if the bobbin cases are wrong. It came with 3 which are slightly different sizes. The darker coloured one is, I believe original, and slightly shorter than the other two. None of them seem to glide close enough on the left side to hook the thread. Any information or help would be greatly appreciated! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted July 24, 2022 I think I have a PDF manual for this machine but it is in German language - send me a PM with your email address and I can forward it to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CyberBadger Report post Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Constabulary said: I think I have a PDF manual for this machine but it is in German language - send me a PM with your email address and I can forward it to you. PM sent, thanks! Hoping I can find the proper bobbin case somewhere if that's indeed the issue... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted July 24, 2022 C , send me a PDF of manual please if you would. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CyberBadger Report post Posted July 25, 2022 18 hours ago, shoepatcher said: C , send me a PDF of manual please if you would. glenn I emailed you a few I found recently as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted July 26, 2022 great. I got a manual from Constabulary. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CyberBadger Report post Posted July 31, 2022 Update! I feel a bit dumb now.... Thanks to the manuals, some photos and a helpful video on another forum, I discovered that the previous owner probably had the incorrect needle size. I lowered the needle by 5mm or so and it seems to work!! Now I feel a bit dumb... As I understand, the machine should take System 88 needles, so I have ordered some to try. And the shuttle is still quite worn, so I will see if the Singer 29k ones fit, as a few people reported having success. But otherwise this should work to start out with! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites