wolvenstien Report post Posted February 11, 2008 (edited) I asked David this and he suggested I post this here for all to see exactly what I am talking about.... got a couple of questions.... on this passenger seat... I didnt go with the wet and stretch method... what I did was cut a wide strip, then cut a 10 inch piece the same width to cover the back, carved it, and then fit it to the larger strip that wraps around the rest of the seat, then attached the back piece to the sides with single loop lace and then tucked it all under and stapled it.... I might now do back and rivet it but thats for later. now my issue is the top... the sides go straight up, while the sides of the foam curve up to the top.... I see that if I cut the top the same size as the sides and front and back that whole thing will have an empty spot going all around at that seam, and I intend to use the round braid lace so it will pull the two leathers together and make then come flesh to flesh instead of edge to edge as I want.... if I cut the top smaller I am going to have wrinkles and it might even twist on me.... I am clueless on how to resume at this point.... The black piece in the pix is the top from the original cover, it is not what I intend to use for the top. I haven't cut it yet. Any direction would be appreciated.... Thanks Mike Edited February 11, 2008 by wolvenstien Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Report post Posted February 11, 2008 I asked David this and he suggested I post this here for all to see exactly what I am talking about.... got a couple of questions.... on this passenger seat... I didnt go with the wet and stretch method... what I did was cut a wide strip, then cut a 10 inch piece the same width to cover the back, carved it, and then fit it to the larger strip that wraps around the rest of the seat, then attached the back piece to the sides with single loop lace and then tucked it all under and stapled it.... I might now do back and rivet it but thats for later. now my issue is the top... the sides go straight up, while the sides of the foam curve up to the top.... I see that if I cut the top the same size as the sides and front and back that whole thing will have an empty spot going all around at that seam, and I intend to use the round braid lace so it will pull the two leathers together and make then come flesh to flesh instead of edge to edge as I want.... if I cut the top smaller I am going to have wrinkles and it might even twist on me.... I am clueless on how to resume at this point.... The black piece in the pix is the top from the original cover, it is not what I intend to use for the top. I haven't cut it yet. Any direction would be appreciated.... Thanks Mike Ok, here's the scoop, as I see it. The side(s) of this seat can't be cut from a straight strip. It is sort of like trying to cover a baseball with straight strips.....it won't work. With your seat back cut the way you want it and your seat top the shape that you want......attach the back and temporarily glue the front to the foam. Now with the back and front attached to the seat.....create your side pattern using tape to find out the exact shape of that side piece. Use several layers of tape to prevent it from stretching when you remove it.....Hope that explains how I would approach this. The alternative of course is to do a Bezza style seat. Good luck, Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Report post Posted February 11, 2008 A formed doughnut to fill the void or overlap the top down the sides and sew with some type of piping to cover the seam or both maybe? Dunno upolstrey to well heck can't even spell it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidemechanic Report post Posted February 11, 2008 Wolv, I really think you have to work from the top down. The way you are going now I bet you will have a lot of puckers to deal with. The only way I can articulate it is that you have to fit your top to the conture of the top edges of the foam. You are dealing with compound curves, the pad curves down in a vertical direction while it makes it's turn at the corners in a horizontal direction. So as Davit said, you have to fit the side to the top in order to control the leather that you want to fit to the contours. I like your idea of the back panel with the Magna logo, that could help you fit things, but you still have to watch how things come together at those two points(top corners of the back panel. Your other issue will be tucking things under where the bottom of the front cusion curves up, which I don't think will be a big deal. Do what David suggested with the tape, and that should cive you the shape you need for the side piece. I still say you can do some wet forming with tooing leather, but do whatever you feel confidant with. Hang in there you'll get it. GH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidemechanic Report post Posted February 14, 2008 Wolv, I had a mini-wake up call, actually in the middle of the night it came to me that if you shape your top piece over the pad until it's edge is even with the flat side of the pad ( which would lower your seam)you wouldn't have to worry about dealing with pucker(like you would if the side panel was higher in the contoured part of the pad)in the side panel as it meets the top. It doesn't look like you shouldn't have any trouble adjusting the tooled panel to fit that way. Also, I think if the seem were lower it would be less exposed to ware than if higher. Sorry I didn't think of it sooner, hope it helps. GH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
