milkman Report post Posted March 2 Hi guys I am interested to buying the machine in the attachment photos. I can see it is a model 23 Pfaff. I read around here that it is best suited for lighter work such as fabrics and light leather and that's what I need. I stopped to this one because it looks in good shape and it has the original accessories, even an electrical motor behind it. Can't seem to find much info about it and what I would be interested of, after purchase, would be a couple of thread posts because I saw it lacks one and one is bent as it looks, and needles and bobbins probably. Do you know what size of needles this fits and bobbins? I opted for this because I like it! Asking price is about 400eur. Do you think it is a fair one? Thanks! M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted March 2 (edited) The Pfaff 23 is similar to the Singer 17 and Adler 48. This 23 Model has a reverse function which is quite rare. The machine either has a long beak shuttle or a CB hook but I guess its the long beak shuttle here. If it has the LBS then the bobbins are fairly small and do not hold much thread. Test if the bobbin winder works and if you can adjust forward and reverse stitches. Does the machine come with other accessories? Check what is in the drawer and tin box. The big flat bed attachment is very nice!!! I have a few files incl. an English language manual for the Adler 48 (similar machine) and a German language manual for the Pfaff 23 and so forth. Hope this helps. Check if the needle plate (needle hole) in good shape and nothing is broken. If broken do not buy it cause the needle plates are hard to find and if you can find them they are very very expensive. Only source I ever have found for a needle plate was this (same NP as for the 23 - nuts price) https://planetecouture.com/en/needle-plates/6024-plaque-aiguille-pfaff-28-rfrence-91-046-280-04.html IIRC the Pfaff needle plate cannot be replaced with Singer 17 parts. Pfaff_23_Anleitung.pdf Adler_48_Anleitung.pdf Adler_48_Broschüre_compressed.pdf Pfaff_23_Flyer.pdf Edited March 2 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milkman Report post Posted March 2 Wow! Thanks so much for the info and manuals! I will study them. I received some more pics. I am guessing this is the CB hook? Do you know the age of this machine by any chance? I don't have a pic with the serial number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted March 2 (edited) It´s a CB Hook machine. I assume its is 1920´s - 1930´s made. It was replaced by the Pfaff 25 and later by the Pfaff 28. This site will help you to figure the date: http://needlebar.org/main/dates/pfaff/index.html Edited March 2 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites