Pedersen 309 and Pedersen 300 sewing machines

[Mulesaw]

3 hours ago, Tastech said:

Lol , Those pesky steam punk lamp makers , They have destroyed many a machine . I hope there is a special place in hell for them .

@Mulesaw When your get a chance also post some photos of the bobbin and bobbin casing . I have some parts that might be for your sole stitcher . I got a random box of parts that are from an outsole stitcher but not sure what machine . Definitely not a landis  or a british Victor so might be for a pederson 

 I am glad that I am not alone in that assumption about steampunk lamp producers.
I'll take some more pictures of it. 

I was daydreaming about using it today, and thought about the possibility to use it for sewing alongside the edges of a belt. Not sure if it is a great idea, but I think that I want to try that sometime. And it should be able to sew some beefy leather with a hefty thread, so it might look sturdy. Also I reckon that there is some sort of fence that will help in keeping a fixed distance from the edge.

Brgds Jonas

[Mulesaw]

@Tastech

I made a check on the inventory of the machine, and apart from sitting unused and unlubricated, it is really positive. Oh yes, I also found the missing grease cup cover, so that is mounted in the correct place again.
there is minimal rust, and there are some tools that look like they are the original tools that must have come with the machine. Open end wrenches/spanners, a small screwdriver with a knurled metal handle, a wire "getthethreadthroughthesmallholes" thing plus a few other period correct tools, that look like old multi bicycle spanners. 

Plus:

6 bobbins
1 bobbin holder
a couple of feed dogs, some of them might be for the insole stitcher, but all was in the small drawer of the outsole stitcher.
2 weird looking hook things, my guess without having researched much is that they are for the thread catcher on the outsole stitcher.
A bunch of old needles marked "old needles"
Some new needles for both machines.
Something that might be an adjustment tool, (has got some red paint on it)
A couple of metal parts that look like they are for the machine, but so far I don't know for what, a semicircular disc and a smaller disc.
half a handful of various sized screws.
Some homemade leather discs and a small rubber cushion.
A black plastic organizer tray that looks like it is the original from the machine.

My thought is that during the transport to Denmark at some point, if the drawer opened due to vibration or curiosity etc. it would be all too easy for some small parts to go missing. So I have emptied the drawer and I will bring all the small parts with me home in my suitcase. I'll also take the bobbin winder since that one is sitting fairly unprotected, so it is a bit at risk of being caught on something and the it would break.

 

[Tastech]

@Mulesaw. I checked my box of parts and took a photo of some easily identified parts . The parts seem to all start with the letters VSM then a number . I have no idea what VSM represents . I was hoping someone might know . I have taken some vernier  caliper measurements  in millimeters of the bobbin and listed the part numbers . The parts shown are definitely from an out sole stitcher  but i have no idea what make. 

 By looking at your photos and mine things look a little different .

[Mulesaw]

9 minutes ago, Tastech said:

@Mulesaw. I checked my box of parts and took a photo of some easily identified parts . The parts seem to all start with the letters VSM then a number . I have no idea what VSM represents . I was hoping someone might know . I have taken some vernier  caliper measurements  in millimeters of the bobbin and listed the part numbers . The parts shown are definitely from an out sole stitcher  but i have no idea what make. 

 By looking at your photos and mine things look a little different .

They do look a bit different, especially the bobbin holder, mine is not nearly as "elegant" and the #91 part doesn't look like something like those "thread catchers" on the Pedersen.
I guess they could be for a more modern version of the outsole stitcher, but I am so very new to the outsole stitcher owners world - that I haven't got any good suggestions except just some name dropping. But super cool and nice of you to take the time to look at it. It is deeply appreciated.

I would guess that the most likely machine is one that was common in Australia, but at least in Europe, most independent shoemakers closed shop probably 50 years ago, so finding someone who still remembers might be difficult.

I think that pretty much the only ones that still makes shoes from scratch in Denmark are orthopedic shoemakers, so if you have any of those nearby you could perhaps go check their outsole stitcher to see if the parts would be identical to that machine. But I know from myself that there are so many things to do that I have to be careful to not embark on a time consuming adventure unless there is some reasonable outcome in it. Still I hate the idea of having nice spare parts lying around knowing that they could be put to good use for the correct person.

20 years ago I got an old Ducati workshop manual in a box of other stuff (I think it was for the 860 GTS) I really didn't have any use for it, so I advertised it off for free and some Ducati owner was over the moon to get his hands on it. But that was an easy thing to identify, your parts are quite a bit harder :-)

Brgds Jonas

[Tastech]

@ mulesaw Can you recommend any steampunk lamp makers that might be interested? LOL

[Mulesaw]

2 hours ago, Tastech said:

@ mulesaw Can you recommend any steampunk lamp makers that might be interested? LOL

HAHAHAHAHA 

Nope, I don't know any of those, 
It is a shame that we can't figure out what machines they are intended for, they look very well kept, with no scratches and no rust issues etc. 
 

Perhaps we should suggest the moderators to make a sub forum under sewing machines for "parts identification". There has got to be more people who once in a while have a part that they don't know where belong or what it'll do.

On my picture with all the spanners, the 3 items on the left are a mystery to me. The long part looks like some "check the adjustment" part, but it could be something else. Then there is a knurled part that slides over the long part that I also haven't got a clue what will do, and finally something that looks like a tension disc - only it isn't. I am guessing that if I had a manual for a 309 outsole stitcher, it would help, but I guess it isn't uncommon that parts and machines become separated after so many years, and then we are kind of lost.

Another thing, do you make your lasts yourself, or do you buy some and then tweak them into fitting perfect? I'm asking because I haven't been able to find any lasts nearby, and I have often considered making them myself. I have looked at some Youtube videos, and I think that whatever I make it should still be OK. As long as the basic measurements like instep and length are going to be OK.
Some of the methods seem very labor intensive and maybe a bit experimental, like making a model of your foot using duct tape and then casting plaster in it. But it could probably work too.

Brgds Jonas

[Tastech]

@Mulesaw. I found out what may parts are for . A victor outsole stitcher . The guys at shoe repair forum helped me out . Perhaps you should join the forum and ask for info . They have a few industry specialists on there . They have some uncanny info on there . They are a grumpy old bunch but helpful none the less 

https://shoerepairer.info/

[Mulesaw]

@Tastech

Good idea, thanks for the tip.

Actually I saw your post there yesterday evening while I was browsing the net for a manual for the 309. 
I tried so many different search phrases, and at some point I guess it was "Pedersen outsole stitcher", one of the pictures that came up looked strangely familiar, so I clicked on it and was convinced that I had seen it before, so I followed the link, and it took me to the site you mentioned, and I could see it was your picture of the spare parts :-)

I am completely self taught in the shoe repairing business, and so far it has mostly been riding boots that has needed a bit of mending and a new zipper. But despite not advertising at all I get more and more inquiries about shoe repair. 
 

Brgds Jonas