B997

[JDFred]

I just purchased a B997 double beveler, I’m not sure if I’m using it right or if I just need more practice.  I get ALOT of tool marks when using it.  I get fewer if I have the point of the stamp pointed toward me and work pushing away from me, but there is still quite a few tool marks.  I can sorta smooth them out if I push it along the line after stamping.  Is this the correct way to use the thing or is there a better way?  Any help would be appreciated.

[bruce johnson]

I am assuming you are using it as a walking tool. If you tip it at all in either direction, you will get chatter marks from the end impressions. It is nearly impossible to hold exactly vertical and also get even pressure from every hit. If this stamp was a walking tool then the ends should be chamfered or curved up to avoid chatters. I've got no idea the original intention and lack of thought if it is supposed to walk. If so it should be like good bevelers and curved up on the ends to glide and avoid chattering. You can use it by hand to slide over and burnish after stamping but those marks are nearly impossible to totally clean up. 

If you are doing a single impression like a "crease" in a flower petal radiating from the center that chatter mark is your friend. Was that the original intent? I don't know. 

What I can say is when I started making handled push bevelers, about the third day I had inquiries for push double bevelers to address this issue. You can get more pressure on a handled tool than pressing a stamp by hand.  Good for quilted patterns. One or two passes and go to the next line 

 

 

[Mablung]

The Tandy double beveler is a walking tool, or so they say. It’s technically possible to get a clean bevel with it (I’ve seen the manager of my local store do it in a class I took), but how anyone gets good enough with it short of asylum-worthy obsession with it, I couldn’t tell you. 

[JDFred]

47 minutes ago, bruce johnson said:

I am assuming you are using it as a walking tool. If you tip it at all in either direction, you will get chatter marks from the end impressions. It is nearly impossible to hold exactly vertical and also get even pressure from every hit. If this stamp was a walking tool then the ends should be chamfered or curved up to avoid chatters. I've got no idea the original intention and lack of thought if it is supposed to walk. If so it should be like good bevelers and curved up on the ends to glide and avoid chattering. You can use it by hand to slide over and burnish after stamping but those marks are nearly impossible to totally clean up. 

If you are doing a single impression like a "crease" in a flower petal radiating from the center that chatter mark is your friend. Was that the original intent? I don't know. 

What I can say is when I started making handled push bevelers, about the third day I had inquiries for push double bevelers to address this issue. You can get more pressure on a handled tool than pressing a stamp by hand.  Good for quilted patterns. One or two passes and go to the next line 

 

 

Until you said it I didn’t think about the edges of the tool being square and not rounded.  That would account for the marks.  You may be on to something it being a figure carving or floral tool instead of a beveler for a long straight line.  I was going to try some quilted patterning and I thought this would save some time in the beveling but perhaps it’s the wrong tool and I should look at a push beveler.

[MarshalWill]

I have one of those and use it as a 'push bevel' but draw it towards me. It's tempting to cut it down and fit it in a swivel knife.

[Mablung]

12 hours ago, JDFred said:

Until you said it I didn’t think about the edges of the tool being square and not rounded.  That would account for the marks.  You may be on to something it being a figure carving or floral tool instead of a beveler for a long straight line.  I was going to try some quilted patterning and I thought this would save some time in the beveling but perhaps it’s the wrong tool and I should look at a push beveler.

You can use it for the long lines like you’re talking about, although it is a figure carving tool, more than anything, but that’ll get tedious. 

[JDFred]

12 hours ago, Mablung said:

You can use it for the long lines like you’re talking about, although it is a figure carving tool, more than anything, but that’ll get tedious. 

I got to thinking about rounding the edges of the tool so it is more like a regular beveler then it would not be so tedious to use on longer lines.