Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted yesterday at 01:54 PM (edited) I've been thinking to pick up a machine from an associate, a Seiko BSC. I've looked at it a few times over the past year or so and tried it out once. I thought it was pretty awesome overall. The guy that has it wants 3500 for it and of course it's a used machine. Not abused at all, but used almost daily. He's stiff on the price. Tells me he's giving me his buddy price-LOL. I've been warming up allot to some of the features on the newer machines, and this one has a few functions including backtack and it's the larger hook. Looked at an M type machine, 869 ECO but the price tag puts me off. I've also looked at a Juki 1341 and a 2342 but have no experience with either. I did like the square feed but for some reason I felt like the 1341 was a little "cheap" feeling. I want to use it for heavy binding, BUT I don't want a dedicated binder necessarily, I might want to use it for other things down the road. I have owned a few Seikos in the past few years and I've been pretty happy with the build quality. Anyone here have any experience operating a BSC? What are the thoughts on this machine? Anyone operate a binder on one? Worth 3500? Edited yesterday at 01:58 PM by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted yesterday at 03:07 PM 1 hour ago, Cumberland Highpower said: I've been thinking to pick up a machine from an associate, a Seiko BSC. Which subclass 8B, 8BL, 8BV, 8BLV, 8BLH or 8BHC??? From your description a new BSC-8BL costs about $4500 USD plus shipping etc. 1 hour ago, Cumberland Highpower said: Worth 3500? Buddy Price???? Assuming the seller has a BSC-8BL his asking price of $3500 is about 77 percent of a new one. Depending on when he bought the machine he maybe trying to recoup closer to 100 percent of what he paid for the machine. My thought is if you really like the Seiko, which are good machines made in Japan, and it does what you want I would just go buy a new one rather then his "Buddy Price". If I'm not mistaken the Consew 277 is clone of the Seiko BSC but a lot cheaper price wise. 1 hour ago, Cumberland Highpower said: I did like the square feed but for some reason I felt like the 1341 was a little "cheap" feeling. If you think the Juki LS-1341 feels cheap you should try some of the clone machines. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted yesterday at 06:27 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, kgg said: Which subclass 8B, 8BL, 8BV, 8BLV, 8BLH or 8BHC??? From your description a new BSC-8BL costs about $4500 USD plus shipping etc. Buddy Price???? Assuming the seller has a BSC-8BL his asking price of $3500 is about 77 percent of a new one. Depending on when he bought the machine he maybe trying to recoup closer to 100 percent of what he paid for the machine. My thought is if you really like the Seiko, which are good machines made in Japan, and it does what you want I would just go buy a new one rather then his "Buddy Price". If I'm not mistaken the Consew 277 is clone of the Seiko BSC but a lot cheaper price wise. If you think the Juki LS-1341 feels cheap you should try some of the clone machines. kgg Thanks for the reply KGG. Yeah I think 3500 is really his "starting out" buddy price. LOL I'm thinking he'll come down a fair bit if I work on it or throw a good rifle or shotgun in the deal? Could be right, he may have paid 3500 for it new, and trying to recoup his investment. I guess that's nothing new when you think of Adlers and Juki 441's and some of the more desirable machines.... I priced a new one w/table, it's $4,450, but that's for the basic model w/o the functions. I can't seem to find a price on the -BTFL version. It's a BSC 8BL-BTFL. (Large Hook). The BSC isn't a clone of the Consew 277. I have a Seiko LSC-8 and a Consew 277 and they are distinctly different machines from the BSC. But, that being said, the BSC im looking at appears to be at least partly inspired by the LSC8/277 machines somewhat, just stretched in length and upgraded w/functions, air and larger hook. Edited yesterday at 07:56 PM by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted yesterday at 07:05 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, kgg said: If you think the Juki LS-1341 feels cheap you should try some of the clone machines. kgg I don't buy Chinese if I can get out of it. Edited yesterday at 07:44 PM by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted 6 hours ago 20 hours ago, Cumberland Highpower said: The BSC isn't a clone of the Consew 277 That is good to know. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cumberland Highpower Report post Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, kgg said: That is good to know. kgg Maybe not? LOL. I talked about with the owner a little and he's pretty firm. Apparently, he paid a fair bit more than 4500 for it. I may pass on it I guess, i just "wanted" it. Looks like the only advantage I'd be gaining with this over the machines I have is little more depth, automatic backtack and to a lesser degree foot lift. I mainly just wanted the backtack feature. The servos I have on our 277/LSC have positioners already and a setting for automatic foot lift, I just don't have them set up for it. No backtack though. I'll probably dwell on it the next couple days though. Edited 5 hours ago by Cumberland Highpower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
