Threading confusion

[girlscout4]

This is on my singer 111w155. Does anybody have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Or how I might correct this from happening. Thank you so much for any feedback!

[kgg]

45 minutes ago, girlscout4 said:

Does anybody have any idea what I might be doing wrong?

I would suggest taking a couple of photo's showing your top threading from the spool of thread to the eye of the needle. I figure it is incorrect threading of the top thread or a top thread tension issue.

kgg

 

[friquant]

1 hour ago, girlscout4 said:

Does anybody have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Or how I might correct this from happening.

The biggest issue going on is the top thread is not being pulled up all the way to form a tight stitch...rather, the loops of top thread are hanging free on the bottom. As kgg said, tighten the top thread tensioner, and if that does not clear it up, post photos of your top thread path so we can see if it is threaded correctly.

The other issue is that it is skipping stitches. Here you will want to make friends with the service manual so you can set the hook to needle distance, the needle bar height, and the needle bar rise.

[girlscout4]

1 hour ago, friquant said:

The biggest issue going on is the top thread is not being pulled up all the way to form a tight stitch...rather, the loops of top thread are hanging free on the bottom. As kgg said, tighten the top thread tensioner, and if that does not clear it up, post photos of your top thread path so we can see if it is threaded correctly.

The other issue is that it is skipping stitches. Here you will want to make friends with the service manual so you can set the hook to needle distance, the needle bar height, and the needle bar rise.

 

1 hour ago, kgg said:

I would suggest taking a couple of photo's showing your top threading from the spool of thread to the eye of the needle. I figure it is incorrect threading of the top thread or a top thread tension issue.

kgg

 

 

[girlscout4]

1 hour ago, friquant said:

The biggest issue going on is the top thread is not being pulled up all the way to form a tight stitch...rather, the loops of top thread are hanging free on the bottom. As kgg said, tighten the top thread tensioner, and if that does not clear it up, post photos of your top thread path so we can see if it is threaded correctly.

The other issue is that it is skipping stitches. Here you will want to make friends with the service manual so you can set the hook to needle distance, the needle bar height, and the needle bar rise.

 

[AlZilla]

It looks like you have the check spring wrong and the 3-hole flag at the top wrong. On my machine, the 3 holes are horizontal and the thread goes down through the first hole, up into the second and back down through the 3rd. Then into the tension unit and on to the check spring, where you need to pull up on it until it "pops" and goes behind the little ear.

The tension unit looks pretty tightly screwed down, but the looping says it's too loose. I'd make those couple of changes an see what happens.

[girlscout4]

39 minutes ago, AlZilla said:

It looks like you have the check spring wrong and the 3-hole flag at the top. On my machine, the 3 holes are horizontal and the thread goes down through the first hole, up into the second and back down through the 3rd. Then into the tension unit and on to the check spring, where you need to pull up on it until it "pops" and goes behind the little ear.

The tension unit looks pretty tightly screwed down, but the looping says it's too loose. I'd make those couple of changes a see what happens.

That was it!!! Thank you all so much for the help!

[AlZilla]

Cool. You may have some learning curve with starting and stopping but the stuff in the middle looks great. I'll look for a post about locking your stitch without reverse.

I had a long learning curve getting proficient with mine. Somewhere I read to hold back hard on the tails when starting and that was wrong. Just hold the threads and hold an ounce or two of pressure for the 1st 2 or 3 stitches.

Good job getting it worked out!

[AlZilla]

Funny enough, I'll refer you back to my old post when I was where you are. KGG and Wizcrafts were kind enough to explain thread locking without reverse to me:

 

[girlscout4]

29 minutes ago, AlZilla said:

Cool. You may have some learning curve with starting and stopping but the stuff in the middle looks great. I'll look for a post about locking your stitch without reverse.

I had a long learning curve getting proficient with mine. Somewhere I read to hold back hard on the tails when starting and that was wrong. Just hold the threads and hold an ounce or two of pressure for the 1st 2 or 3 stitches.

Good job getting it worked out!

The locking stitch is what I’m practicing right now on some scrap. I’m trying to go forward a few stitches. Spin it around do it again and then spin it around one more time but it’s tough realigning the holes. 
 

It was doing really good until this began happening. Messing with the tightness of the different thread tension points to get it perfect. I’ll check your other forum below to see what’s going on. Thanks so much!