Singer 211w151

[-Sylvia-]

I'm considering getting a used 211w151, but I'm having difficultly finding much information about this exact model. Owner has 10 available, doesn't know if they work, and is asking 300$ each.

I make kink gear, collars, cuffs, harnesses, etc, plus the occasional small items like wallets. I am using chrome tan leather in the 2-5oz range, max 4 layers, normal 1-2 layers. 

Unfortunately not a lot of options in my area (Northern VT), but would this machine even be capable of what I need it to do or would I be better off biding my time and hoping something better comes up? 

(Or just try and save up for a new compound/triple feed walking foot machine)

Edited 14 hours ago by -Sylvia-

[Constabulary]

its a needle feed + drop feed machine w/o reverse.

you find some main information in the service manual (1st google hit on my end)

I would not buy it.

Singer 211W151.pdf

Edited 12 hours ago by Constabulary

[AlZilla]

Based on what Constabulary says, it's like my 111W151 and I agree with his assessment. I like my 151 and it might work for what you want (I've done small leather goods w/o trouble). The lack of reverse is not a big deal until you get to small leather goods. The backstitch with larger thread becomes important from a visual perspective. There are a couple ways to do the back stitch but they take a little learning curve and practice and you'll still fluff it once in a while.

For not much more money you should be able to find something with reverse and *know* that it actually works.

Besisde, 300 bucks for a run of the mill machine that might work?  Even if you know what you're looking at, it's still too much.

[Constabulary]

My response was a bit short I guess. Well, we have not seen the machines but I would assume that the 211´s are old factory machines that probably have been stored for maybe decades (we do not know, do you?). You for sure will need a new motor (Servo motor + maybe a speed reducer for better speed control) and depending on the wear you may need a new hook and maybe a new timing belt. Replacing a timing belt on a 211 is no fun work IMO due to the shaft bearing on the hand wheels end. So if you are able to replace the parts by your self. And since we have not seen the machine it may need some more bits too. You may need $100+ for the motor + maybe $150 for the speed reducer (if needed) and maybe $50+ for additional parts (all guessing) and your time for repair and adjustment work. So a lot of guessing here. Pictures of the actual machine(s) may help.

The machine it self could probably sew what you what (as AlZilla already said) but it is meant for flat work and not really for sewing over thicknesses. There are for sure better machines for leather work. Triple feed machines are a lot more versatile than needle + drop feed machines, especially when it comes to accessories like presser feet and so forth.

My 2 cents.

Edited 2 hours ago by Constabulary