Two Questions about Vinagroon

[Des804]

1. Can you use color leather paints on top of it ?

2. How long does it normally take for you to make 1 gallon of the stuff up I put the metal nails in it ( about 2-3 lbs worth ) and its been a week and it seems like now is when its just starting to bubble like crazy.

[TwinOaks]

paints? I dunno. Haven't tried that. I'm thinking acrylics won't stick to it very well because of the tallows pushed to the surface.

brewtime? I let mine brew for a few weeks before using it, but I used steel wool first then threw some nails in after the first month. Just remember to leave the lid loose enough to let gas escape ( or use a valve system).

[Des804]

yeah I have the valve system going. Okie dokie thanks.

[budd4766]

Funny you should ask this...because I'm about to attempt this very thing soon.

I let my vinegar/metal sit about 2 weeks and then strained through a rag twice. I've tested some pieces, letting them soak in the vinagroon for 2 minutes, then rinsing with baking soda/water.

I get a nice black, and it'll "pass", especially after I put Super Sheen on it, but I do notice some of the thicker pieces will start to fade to gray as they dry. I'll try soaking them a little longer next time.

I'll try to post some pics of how my attempt at painting on vinagrooned leather comes out in a few days.

[dbusarow]

Re fading to gray.

Let the pieces dry completely, then give them a good coat or two of oil. The oil really brings out the black. And it's not just acceptable, it's a wonderful black.

Dan

[DG Leather]

1. Can you use color leather paints on top of it ?

2. How long does it normally take for you to make 1 gallon of the stuff up I put the metal nails in it ( about 2-3 lbs worth ) and its been a week and it seems like now is when its just starting to bubble like crazy.

What is vinagroon?

[hidepounder]

Has anyone ever tried using vinegaroon with a brush...applying it like dye in specific areas while leaving other parts natural...like dyeing a background? Does that work?

Bob

[ferret]

Has anyone ever tried using vinegaroon with a brush...applying it like dye in specific areas while leaving other parts natural...like dyeing a background? Does that work?

Bob

Yes but you have to use several coats to get a deep black. This also works if you are using acrylic paints, remeber to put tha paint on first.

Edited April 15, 2009 by ferret

[budd4766]

I'm wondering if I should paint, then dunk the whole thing in the sauce. I've got two pieces to do...could try both ways I guess.

I'll have to do some experimenting...play the mad scientist a little..

[Suze]

What is vinagroon?

It is an "old time" dye for leather made with vinager and some sort of steel --- steel wool (no soap) nails (rusty works better)

the vinager desolves the steel and when you use it on leather it is a very rich black.

Hope that helped - if you search around there have been several threads about it.