gcollins Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Hi Folks, I hate to be so dumb that I have to ask so many questions? First off I call the guy that someone told me to. Real nice man, told me that the 17-23 was a sweet machine, and after practice you can write your name with it! I know nothing about industrial machines! I was told it took a 16-2 whatever needle? (What does that mean) it says to you 4 cord left hand twist thread, okay I understand that, But what size thead do I need? I was looking threw Springfield leather cat. and they show 138,207,277,and a 346. I don't have a clue what to buy??? If anyone would give me some info, what to buy to get it running I would be very great full! I can sew with my Singer 66 and my 99, but I am lost! I would be great full! Thanks Greg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5shot Report post Posted May 7, 2009 Hi Folks, I hate to be so dumb that I have to ask so many questions? First off I call the guy that someone told me to. Real nice man, told me that the 17-23 was a sweet machine, and after practice you can write your name with it! I know nothing about industrial machines! I was told it took a 16-2 whatever needle? (What does that mean) it says to you 4 cord left hand twist thread, okay I understand that, But what size thead do I need? I was looking threw Springfield leather cat. and they show 138,207,277,and a 346. I don't have a clue what to buy??? If anyone would give me some info, what to buy to get it running I would be very great full! I can sew with my Singer 66 and my 99, but I am lost! I would be great full! Thanks Greg 4 cord is Size 277 thread. As for the needle, 16X2 is the STYLE of needle. You will probably need a size 25 with that heavy of thread. Here is the manual for your machine.... 17-23 Manual Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcollins Report post Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) 5 shot, Thanks for telling me about the thread! I don't have a needle yet, I did clean it up and got a new belt. I have tha manual, and if you go to the second page it says except 17-22, 17-23, 17-25,, 17-31 and 17-33. I have no idea if it will sew what I want, I know with just a regural needle for a singer 66, it will poke right threw the leather but, it won't pick up the bobbin thread> Maybe when I get a neddle it will?? Thank you so much!! Greg Edited May 7, 2009 by gcollins Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5shot Report post Posted May 7, 2009 5 shot, Thanks for telling me about the thread! I don't have a needle yet, I did clean it up and got a new belt. I have tha manual, and if you go to the second page it says except 17-22, 17-23, 17-25,, 17-31 and 17-33. I have no idea if it will sew what I want, I know with just a regural needle for a singer 66, it will poke right threw the leather but, it won't pick up the bobbin thread> Maybe when I get a neddle it will?? Thank you so much!! Greg The needle could very well be the difference - the relief on the side of the needle is where the shuttle hook picks up the thread, so the wrong needle would cause issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevinhopkins Report post Posted May 8, 2009 Hi... For what it's worth, you might want to get on the phone to someone with a toll free number, and just chat about sewing. You'll probably find the time well spent, and you'll more than likely be smarter. I'm always available (pretty much), and so is steve tayrien, and I'm sure there are others. Don't get discouraged...once you get thru the learning curve, it gets better! Kevin Hopkins/Springfield leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
