Contributing Member Regis Posted July 1, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted July 1, 2009 Well Ed, I'm back from Home Depot. After reading all the labels and talking to 2 folks that had no clue about glue (except mabe sniffing) I came home with a different one all together. I bought the Roberts 7200 as it included rubber as one suitable surface it would hold. The 3300 says felt, cork, carpet, wood. The 2057 says specifically for carpet to plywood (and nothing else). I just glued 3 different kinds of leather together with the 7200 and will post results. Regis Quote God, Family, and Country (although liberals are attempting to destroy these in the USA)
esantoro Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 I spent the morning reading up these glues. I will try to get the 2057 in the next few days. The fact that it dries clear in my mind means that it bears similarity to tanners bond. I'm off to a few local hardware stores right now n the vicinity of some errands I must run. When I use TB, I glue and stitch 30 minutes or longer after clamping, so whatever alternative we come up with has to allow for the same. Plus it has to dry clear. Terry: Is the Wickes you're using white or beige or tan and does it dry clear? How long must you let the leather sit before stitching? I'm now off to see if I can read up more on Wickes to see if I can find further clues. ed Well Ed, I'm back from Home Depot. After reading all the labels and talking to 2 folks that had no clue about glue (except mabe sniffing) I came home with a different one all together. I bought the Roberts 7200 as it included rubber as one suitable surface it would hold. The 3300 says felt, cork, carpet, wood. The 2057 says specifically for carpet to plywood (and nothing else). I just glued 3 different kinds of leather together with the 7200 and will post results. Regis Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
esantoro Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 more info: Bostik may be the company we are looking for: http://www.bostik.com.au/browse.php?cat=Wa...sed%20Adhesives They have U.S. offices and distribution, as well as offices and distribution around the world. The data sheets on their various glues seem to zero in on what we are looking for. Ed Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Contributing Member Regis Posted July 1, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted July 1, 2009 I can tell you that the Roberts 7200 is not good. Long time to dry and then not good hold on any of the leathers I tried (veg, garmet, or chap). Plus it dries tan/yellow. Regis Quote God, Family, and Country (although liberals are attempting to destroy these in the USA)
esantoro Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 I can tell you that the Roberts 7200 is not good. Long time to dry and then not good hold on any of the leathers I tried (veg, garmet, or chap). Plus it dries tan/yellow.Regis Thanks, Regis. I'll do the 2507. With all the PVA adhesives out there, tanners bond cannot be the only one for leather that dries fast and clear. Attached is the data sheet for TB ed Leathercraft_20Adhesive_20_28former_20Tanners_20Bond_29.pdf Leathercraft_20Adhesive_20_28former_20Tanners_20Bond_29.pdf Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members Brushpopper Posted July 1, 2009 Members Report Posted July 1, 2009 I apply a thin coat of multi-purpose PVA to holsters and let it dry. Then I apply a second coat and clamp together. It glues quickly and solidly. Now I've got the hang of PVA I prefer it to other types of glue. Quote
esantoro Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) I apply a thin coat of multi-purpose PVA to holsters and let it dry. Then I apply a second coat and clamp together. It glues quickly and solidly. Now I've got the hang of PVA I prefer it to other types of glue. What brand PVA are you using? HEre is a data sheet for Wickes Building PVA adhesive. It doesn't and it contain a lot of useful information, but it makes the Bostik connection. ed wickesbpva04413683.pdf wickesbpva04413683.pdf Edited July 1, 2009 by esantoro Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members celticleather Posted July 1, 2009 Members Report Posted July 1, 2009 Ed The Wickes PVA is white, and dries clear. I usually thinly coat both surfaces to be glued, and wait until the coating is tacky - only a couple of minutes. Then press the parts together. They can be stitched almost immediately. Terry Quote When everyone is somebody, then no one's anybody
esantoro Posted July 1, 2009 Report Posted July 1, 2009 Terry, That sounds perfect, and it also seems that coating one surface, which is what I do with Tanners Bond, will also be sufficient. Now I know that such a thing is available, I will find it here in the U.S. I'm emailing Bostik right now to see if the very same thing is available here. Thanks, Ed EdThe Wickes PVA is white, and dries clear. I usually thinly coat both surfaces to be glued, and wait until the coating is tacky - only a couple of minutes. Then press the parts together. They can be stitched almost immediately. Terry Quote http://www.waldenbags.com http://www.waldenbags.etsy.com
Members celticleather Posted July 2, 2009 Members Report Posted July 2, 2009 Ed I sometimes use the one-surface method, but I find that the coating needs to be a bit thicker, and the surfaces need to be put together while the adhesive is still wet. This extends the drying time a bit . . . but the bond is still good. If the Bostik trail runs out, the PVA adhesive that I used to use is UniBond . . . it's pretty much the same as the Wickes PVA, but more costly. It's made by a company called Henkel, and I think they also sell it in the US, but perhaps under a different name. May be worth a try if all else fails. They have a web presence at http://www.henkel.com/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_...s.xsl/index.htm Terry Quote When everyone is somebody, then no one's anybody
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