PVA glue

[Brushpopper]

Esantoro - the make I use is Platignum. But the Wickes sounds fine if you can get it.

Edited July 2, 2009 by Brushpopper

[esantoro]

Here's word back from Bostik:

"We don't sell that exact grade of PVA [Wickes Building PVA] - most of the building grades

tend to be thicker (higher in viscosity) than the packaging and assembly

grades we sell in the states - but I've got a few that would probably

provide the type of bond you need. The first is our L5299, which is a

general-purpose packaging and laminating PVA. The second would be our

L5263, which is a durable woodworking PVA that meets ANSI Type-2 water

resistance, and is higher in flexibility and adhesion than the other PVA.

One last option would be our M30-029, which is a high-flexibility

high-adhesion co-poylmer product. Samples of all three should be readily

available."

I'm not sure if any of this will be available in orders of a few gallons at a time.

Ed

[esantoro]

Isn't woodworker's glue the same kind of glue?

I think Hilly's suggestion of a wood glue is a good one, and I just now found a white, clear-drying one at half the price of Tanners Bond.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006NNJY...851HN49QSYWYBFK

ed

[Regis]

Looks like Lowes (not homedepot) carries some Bostik adhesives but, I can not relate the numbers they sent you. And 2gal is minimum that I see online.

[esantoro]

Just got off the phone with Titebond/Franklin.

Three white glues that dry clear and set withing 10 minutes (I'm assuming) are:

Titebond All-Purpose White

Titebond White Glue (rep said this is difficult to find)

Titebond Melamine

Data sheets attached

MelamineTB.pdf

WhiteTB.pdf

AllPurposeWhiteTB.pdf

MelamineTB.pdf

WhiteTB.pdf

AllPurposeWhiteTB.pdf

[esantoro]

A quick scan of the data sheets tells me the All-Purpose White is the way to go, as it has a slightly higher bond strength than Titebond White, which appears difficult to get. Melamine is out, as it seems to have a very weak bond strength.

Feeler has been sent out to Fiebing's to get the bond strength of Tanners Bond.

Nothing like R&D for procrastination.

Ed

[esantoro]

I think Hilly's suggestion of a wood glue is a good one, and I just now found a white, clear-drying one at half the price of Tanners Bond.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006NNJY...851HN49QSYWYBFK

ed

So far, this link seems to yield the best price for four gallons at about $19 a gallon shipped.

ed

[Hilly]

So far, this link seems to yield the best price for four gallons at about $19 a gallon shipped.

ed

Says it dries "translucent", not clear.

Copied and pasted from Amazon website:

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Technical Details

• WHITE Wood Glue-Gallon

• Provides a translucent glue line

• Offers excellent sandablility

• Unaffected by finishes

• Non-toxic and cleans up with water

[esantoro]

The data sheet mentions "translucent" and "dries clear and colorless. The data sheet for the All-Purpose White mentions "dries clear" but no "translucent" anywhere.

ed

Says it dries "translucent", not clear.

Copied and pasted from Amazon website:

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Technical Details

• WHITE Wood Glue-Gallon
  
• Provides a translucent glue line
  
• Offers excellent sandablility
  
• Unaffected by finishes
  
• Non-toxic and cleans up with water
  

[esantoro]

It seems that PVA adhesives of all stripes have a shelf life of 12 months.

Has anyone had pva adhesive sitting around for longer than a year without experiencing any loss in adhesion and bond strength? What's the longest you've had it sitting around?

ed