Members Patrice Posted September 9, 2009 Members Report Posted September 9, 2009 Hi all! Once again i'm using the infinite power of the leatherworker forum. I just bought some small embossing plates and i dont have, for the moment, 1800$ for a tippman clicker press. So, i'm trying to figure out another way of stamping plates into my leather pieces. You will find a picture of the plates at the end of the topic. I found this site: http://www.clickcut.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=55 I send an email at the company, but did not received any responses for now. Since the plates are very small 2" x 4", do you think that this small hand press would do a nice and even impression? I was also looking for this other solution: http://www.danielsmith.com/Item--i-530-120-002 That's i'm thinking right now. If you think of something else, let me and the others members know. Quote Patrice
Moderator Art Posted September 9, 2009 Moderator Report Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Patrice, A 3 or 4 ton Arbor press (ratcheting one is better but more expensive). As this is a standard machine shop type of thing, used ones are readily available and the Chinese ones are ok too. The ones that use a hydraulic bottle jack also work and are maybe even cheaper for the load rating. Art Hi all! Once again i'm using the infinite power of the leatherworker forum. I just bought some small embossing plates and i dont have, for the moment, 1800$ for a tippman clicker press. So, i'm trying to figure out another way of stamping plates into my leather pieces. You will find a picture of the plates at the end of the topic. I found this site: http://www.clickcut.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=55 I send an email at the company, but did not received any responses for now. Since the plates are very small 2" x 4", do you think that this small hand press would do a nice and even impression? I was also looking for this other solution: http://www.danielsmith.com/Item--i-530-120-002 That's i'm thinking right now. If you think of something else, let me and the others members know. Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Patrice Posted September 9, 2009 Author Members Report Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Patrice, A 3 or 4 ton Arbor press (ratcheting one is better but more expensive). As this is a standard machine shop type of thing, used ones are readily available and the Chinese ones are ok too. The ones that use a hydraulic bottle jack also work and are maybe even cheaper for the load rating. Art Thank's Art. If i'm going with a press shop, how can i fix plate on top and bottom of the press? I'm truying to figure that out! Quote Patrice
Members CitizenKate Posted September 9, 2009 Members Report Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Patrice, I have the Lucris MA Series III clicker press you have pictured (the first item). It works great with both cutting dies and embossing plates. The largest die I have is about 8" long, and use it to cut 6oz veg-tan with no effort at all. When using embossing plates, I maintain the pressure for about 2 minutes before releasing the lever to get a good impression from a large plate. I'm not sure the second item you have pictured would work very well. A printing press probably doesn't produce as much pressure, whereas the clicker press is rated at 5 tons of pressure. A lot of people also use arbor presses, such as the one Art suggested. Kate Quote
Members Patrice Posted September 10, 2009 Author Members Report Posted September 10, 2009 Hi Patrice, I have the Lucris MA Series III clicker press you have pictured (the first item). It works great with both cutting dies and embossing plates. The largest die I have is about 8" long, and use it to cut 6oz veg-tan with no effort at all. When using embossing plates, I maintain the pressure for about 2 minutes before releasing the lever to get a good impression from a large plate. I'm not sure the second item you have pictured would work very well. A printing press probably doesn't produce as much pressure, whereas the clicker press is rated at 5 tons of pressure. A lot of people also use arbor presses, such as the one Art suggested. Kate Thank you Kate. I just learned that the MA Series III clicker sell for 1550$ canadian. At this price, i'm wondering if should spend more and buy a tippman clicker 700... But, if i'm going for the arbor, can i ask the seller some accessory to use with my embossing plate? I'm still thinking. Quote Patrice
Members Studio-N Posted September 10, 2009 Members Report Posted September 10, 2009 No one has mentioned a bench press yet, so I'll add my 2 cents. I'm using the press from Weaver. It is well made, totally welded so there is no movement in it, and is ready to accept some steel plates, which they sell as well. I've been using it with my embossing plates without problem. My only complaint is that it only comes with a 5 ton bottle jack which is a little weak. I upgraded to a 12 ton jack from sears and am happy as a pig in mud. Cost of the press was about $350 US. Cheers! Quote "Out of my mind.....back in 5 minutes"
Members iwannabeacowboy Posted September 10, 2009 Members Report Posted September 10, 2009 I use a 2 ton arbor press with various size steel plates to cover the stamp, depending on the size of the stamping plate. I also took the ram off the press and drilled a 1/2" hole in the end to accept all stamp handles, also some tapped cross holes to hold the handles in. This makes for nice deep 3D stamp impressions. I also wanted a clicker press or the hydraulic press but don't have the room for it. Charlie Quote I'm never to old to learn about all the things life brings along.
Members CitizenKate Posted September 10, 2009 Members Report Posted September 10, 2009 I just learned that the MA Series III clicker sell for 1550$ canadian. Wow, they've really gone up! I was fortunate to purchase mine used for $600. I love the machine, and it's well worth what I paid, but if I had to pay $1,550 for it, I would be considering the air-powered Tippman machine more strongly. Others will have to answer the arbor press question, since I don't know a lot about them. Kate Quote
Members CitizenKate Posted September 10, 2009 Members Report Posted September 10, 2009 I use a 2 ton arbor press with various size steel plates to cover the stamp, depending on the size of the stamping plate. I also took the ram off the press and drilled a 1/2" hole in the end to accept all stamp handles, also some tapped cross holes to hold the handles in. This makes for nice deep 3D stamp impressions. That seems to work pretty well, Charlie. Any way to attach a plate to the ram? Kate Quote
Contributing Member Jordan Posted September 10, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted September 10, 2009 I would think that a book press would work. The one I have my eye on is an antique, cast iron frame with a screw down steel plate on top and a solid plate for a base. I will have to wait until I get to calif to try it out as it is sitting in my mom's livingroom as a knick-nack. She collects all kinds of interesting stuff Quote
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