Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 31, 2008 Moderator Report Posted March 31, 2008 Bruce,I put a buckle on my stirrup hobbles and it's usually in the front. Don't know why I don't have it showing in this photo. Troy, Maybe I am reading something into this picture that is not there. Is the stirrup hobble strap an extension of the wrap for the stirrup leather? I thought it was at first look. My mind is kicking around an idea here. I like the looks of the braided wraps. Could a guy leave his two ends coming out the bottom of a short barrel braid in the front, one shorter and attach a buckle, the other longer end make that the billet end? Hmmmmm. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members Cowboy Crafts Online Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Report Posted March 31, 2008 First off thank youto everyone that replied to my question about the seat rig. Next Troy that is a great looking saddle. I have one more question about the seat rig. Do you double the leather under the seat to give more strength to the rigging? Does that make any sense? Ashley Quote
Members TroyWest Posted March 31, 2008 Members Report Posted March 31, 2008 Bruce, It's a traditional wrap and a stirrup hobble, 2 separate pieces. I'm sure what you are considering is possible. It sounds like your making a stirrup wrap that doubles as a hobble strap. Ashley, Thanks for the compliment.The answer to your question is yes. On a regular seat rig you do add a liner under the seat just like you would a flat plate. You sew the bottom edge but the top tapers away under the seat jockey and is simply glued. Quote
Members TroyWest Posted March 31, 2008 Members Report Posted March 31, 2008 Keith, I meant to put that photo above in answer to your question. There is no separation either end. I started by making a template across the back of the cantle and cutting that line first. After I got it over the cantle I could shape it with my drawdown and then mark the spot for my horn. The hand hole is simply an oval hole. Hope that helps. Sorry the pictures in the wrong spot. Quote
Bob Posted March 31, 2008 Report Posted March 31, 2008 Troy, your saddle work is amazing. After I picked my jaw up off the floor. I can't help buy wonder how you did that. How can you make that work? With the skirts joined to the seat and swell cover in one? Won't that be an amazing thing to sew on a machine? I think this saddle would be quite a job to reline the skirts. Beautiful workmanship Troy... Quote Bob Goudreault www.kamloopssaddlery.com
Members TroyWest Posted March 31, 2008 Members Report Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks Bob, I really appreciate your comments, and you're right. I hope I never have to reline the skirts. Quote
Members scottc79 Posted June 27, 2008 Members Report Posted June 27, 2008 I am new to the post and dont know alot about how to make a saddle but have been around some guys that have made saddles like tooter and one was ricky nolan. When ricky worked for the pitch fork ranch he said tooter showed him how the make the seat rig and i watched him make a couple in his shop in truscott texas there is a hanger for lack on a better term that is in the middle of the saddle that the sturipps hang from he showed the hanger to me it was made from 1/8 to 1/4 inch rolled steel and he told me that tooter had given him the pattern and he pulled them out to have a look and said that the hanger is why tooters saddles sat on a horse and may have had somthing to do with the saddle pinching I not sure but he was sure the the hanger made the differance. I was about 19 or 20 at the time and could not afford the 3000.00 price tag 10 years ago to have him build one for me but they were the closest thing i have found to the tooter seat rig and i have lost touch with ricky after he left truscott. there is a display at the at the ranch and heritage center in lubbock of tooters work and they might let someone look under the saddle to see the hanger. I did sit on rickys saddle he had a slick fork seat rig at the time that had been alot of miles and I think his saddle was the most comfortable saddle i have ever sat on. Quote
Members firephil Posted June 30, 2008 Members Report Posted June 30, 2008 Troy, I have always wondered how you go about carving from the swell on down. How did you do that? Quote
Members TroyWest Posted July 1, 2008 Members Report Posted July 1, 2008 Well, normally I tool my swells on the saddle as one of the last things I do, however, on this saddle, everything being one piece I could actually tool the whole thing on the bench. It being an a-fork I could tool it and then put the whole thing on without damaging the tooling on the front. Quote
Members Sage Posted June 30, 2010 Members Report Posted June 30, 2010 Good Morning All, Late night Demons were keeping me up last night and some how I came across this post about seat rigs. Thought the concept was very interesting, then Troy West posted a saddle he did back in 2002 ( A Mother Hubbard ) seat rig. WOW ! Unfortunatley that picture keep me up even longer ! Could not stop thinking how Troy made that saddle. Truley amazing Quote
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