Timbo Posted January 12, 2008 Report Posted January 12, 2008 The tooling and finishing is fantastic............but the part I like the absolute most is the shape!!!!!!!! I love the ends!! Very creative!! Strap ends are usually so boring, but not yours. I'm always looking for new ideas for strap ends and belt ends. Excellent!!! Tim Quote
Members Tina Posted January 12, 2008 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2008 Hi David I have looked at the way you are talking about and think that's the best way in many cases. My idea for this one was to "steel" the flower design idea but make into a my own wine of sorts, just laying loosley across a sholder. Somehow to me that's more feminin for a girl/woman (?) But I do wish I had a few more tools to make the borders more interesting *grabbing a catalog to get me some* :-) Then again, I seldom follow any rules or regulations in designs, for me that don't work..."Rules are made to be broken for developement" Ahhh, this might explain my love for the surrealistic art??? No rules Inverted though, that sounds interesting, hmm. Quote "He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, and his head, and his heart, is An Artist" http://vildkorpens-laderlya.deviantart.com http://tupali.deviantart.com/
Members Tina Posted January 12, 2008 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2008 The tooling and finishing is fantastic............but the part I like the absolute most is the shape!!!!!!!! I love the ends!! Very creative!!Strap ends are usually so boring, but not yours. I'm always looking for new ideas for strap ends and belt ends. Excellent!!! Tim Thank you Tim and your welcome. I like to "fancy up" things a wee bit, even so I have to stop myself sometimes:-) Quote "He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, and his head, and his heart, is An Artist" http://vildkorpens-laderlya.deviantart.com http://tupali.deviantart.com/
Members David Genadek Posted January 12, 2008 Members Report Posted January 12, 2008 My intent with my comments was to get people thinking about the relationship between the positive and negative space, thats all. Peter Mains work is great to study to learn this concept. He is one of the best I have ever seen even in his photo layouts he masterfully controls the movement from positive to negative space and vice versa. David Genadek Quote
Members Tina Posted January 12, 2008 Author Members Report Posted January 12, 2008 My intent with my comments was to get people thinking about the relationship between the positive and negative space, thats all. Peter Mains work is great to study to learn this concept. He is one of the best I have ever seen even in his photo layouts he masterfully controls the movement from positive to negative space and vice versa. David Genadek Hi David, Don't worry, no offence taken and intent understud:-) Quote "He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, and his head, and his heart, is An Artist" http://vildkorpens-laderlya.deviantart.com http://tupali.deviantart.com/
Members David Genadek Posted January 12, 2008 Members Report Posted January 12, 2008 Floral carving can be pretty abstract so let me see if I can explain better by using a real life example. I have attached two photos of a baby elephant. Lets say the elephant is the floral carving and the fence is the border andthe back ground is the back ground. In the one picture the elephant is not touching the fence so it is actually distracting and really has no reason for being there, the photo would look better with out the fence. In the second picture there is a relationship between the elephant and the fence because he is touching it. Takeing out the fence in that picture would really detract from the shot. David Genadek Quote
Members Tina Posted January 13, 2008 Author Members Report Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Floral carving can be pretty abstract so let me see if I can explain better by using a real life example. I have attached two photos of a baby elephant. Lets say the elephant is the floral carving and the fence is the border andthe back ground is the back ground. In the one picture the elephant is not touching the fence so it is actually distracting and really has no reason for being there, the photo would look better with out the fence. In the second picture there is a relationship between the elephant and the fence because he is touching it. Takeing out the fence in that picture would really detract from the shot. David Genadek Hi David, I understand what you mean and I wount say you're wrong at all. To me personally it all depend on how you see the "frame'. I look at the leather more or less as a piece of canvas in this case and some others. Around a canvas is usually a frame that hopefully fit the painting but really has nothing to do with the artwork it self more than being a "nice frame". Then again, if I would ever to do work like sadles and such, I would absolutley keep it in the traditional way (I think *S*) It all depends and I allowe myself an artistic freedom that might not be the way it's always done. For better or for worse? Well I guess it's all "in the eye of the beholder"? So however we twist and turn this subject the answer is going to be the same, there is as many tastes and ideas as there is people on earth and they are all right :-) Have a great weekend//Tina Edited January 13, 2008 by Tina Quote "He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands, and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands, and his head, and his heart, is An Artist" http://vildkorpens-laderlya.deviantart.com http://tupali.deviantart.com/
howardb Posted January 14, 2008 Report Posted January 14, 2008 (edited) My intent with my comments was to get people thinking about the relationship between the positive and negative space, thats all. Peter Mains work is great to study to learn this concept. He is one of the best I have ever seen even in his photo layouts he masterfully controls the movement from positive to negative space and vice versa. David Genadek David, Thanks for the follow up comments. I better appreciate what you were saying. I think we're all going to land on the same page, though we're coming from different directions. My daughter is doing an art project for school where they are studying MC Escher and the relationship between positive and negative space. I think if I had paid more attention to her project in the past few weeks, I'd have caught on with your post a bit quicker! Thanks, Brent PS: Oooo, now there's an idea... I wonder if I could tool up some Escher stuff? [brain going into overdrive...] Edited January 14, 2008 by howardb Quote Brent Howard CALG, HLG
Members David Genadek Posted January 15, 2008 Members Report Posted January 15, 2008 David,Thanks for the follow up comments. I better appreciate what you were saying. I think we're all going to land on the same page, though we're coming from different directions. My daughter is doing an art project for school where they are studying MC Escher and the relationship between positive and negative space. I think if I had paid more attention to her project in the past few weeks, I'd have caught on with your post a bit quicker! Thanks, Brent PS: Oooo, now there's an idea... I wonder if I could tool up some Escher stuff? [brain going into overdrive...] Brent, If Escher came to mind then you totally get what I am saying about the postive and negative space but then I am also trying to bring up the point that we as humans detect and understand relationships based on how things are touching or not touching. Below are two shots of some fouls. Which of the two shots has the most emotional impact on you? I will guess the ones where the fouls are touching because it gives your brain more information about the relation ship. The third photo is the same two fouls with more back ground added. Adding the background doesn't really help the shot it just adds more distraction. Now look at the shot of the horse. It is a pretty crappy shot and doesn't do much for you but then put him in the context of his enviroment and it becomes a pretty cool shot. So you have to know when and how to use the negative space. In the case of the strap by losing the boarder and inverting the design and then combining it with the stamp that was used you really could get an Escher type effect betweenteh positive and negaive space. Now that may not have been what Tina wanted and that is ok. The design elements in this strap are really cool so I would just like to present an alternative way of combining them. Quote
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