My Take On A Tucker Holster

[smalltown]

I thoroughly enjoy this site and thought I would finally post a pic.This site provides alot of inspiration.Thank you all.This is my personal every day carry holster.

[303brit]

I thoroughly enjoy this site and thought I would finally post a pic.This site provides alot of inspiration.Thank you all.This is my personal every day carry holster.

Nice work, that is my current favorite style for OWB carry also.

[smalltown]

Thanks 303brit

[Dwight]

Thanks, Smalltown, . . . I've been looking for a pattern that I could literally do in a blue color, . . . for a special project.

Your picture was just exactly what I needed to see.

May God bless,

Dwight

[smalltown]

Your welcome Dwight cant wait to see your holster

[Dwight]

Your welcome Dwight cant wait to see your holster

Actually, it is for a nurse (imagine that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). We only see each other occasionally through our work assignments, but just as soon as she gives me the order, . . . I'll make it, . . .

May God bless,

Dwight

[cazio]

Smalltown, very nice work. I have a couple of the Tucker HF1s in black cherry both just like the main one shown on his website. Yours looks great I may have to give it a try, I've been wanting one for my kimber pro. Thanks for the picture.

Cazio

Edited March 22, 2010 by cazio

[Dwight]

Your welcome Dwight cant wait to see your holster

Just out of curiosity, I have looked at yours, and on the official Tucker website, . . . is the front flap actually two pieces of leather, or is it just one piece? I wasn't able to figure it out on my own, so I just figured I'd up and ask.

Thanks, may God bless,

Dwight

[olliesrevenge]

Here is a close up pic of a Tucker HF1 that shows the edge of the front flap closely. The way Tucker makes it is w/ two pieces of leather...

http://www.foggymoon...rs/Tucker/6.jpg

More pics of the HF1...

http://www.foggymoon...kerholster.html

After I posted these pics of my 1st functional holster (an HF1 style) - My Holster , I received a friendly PM from a gentleman in the holster biz who informed me that Tucker has been known to get upset with those who copy his HF1. I think the only reason to be even remotely concerned about this is if you are past the point of being a "hobbyist" and are planning to market that style (although I don't proclaim to be an expert on copyright law). I don't know if Tucker was the first one to design a holster that fits the description of: "Envelope style holster w/ separate flap of leather extending to the front of the holster for the purpose of forming the front belt support loop", but he does market a commercially successful version of that style of holster and apparently will defend his copyright on the "HF1".

Nice holster BTW. I am a fan of this style too as it seems to support a pistol riding high above the belt very well.

Lance

[Dwight]

Thanks, olliesrevenge, . . . I tried making one unlined just for the heck of it, . . . and it did not turn out to suit me.

As for the copyright, . . . I would never assume to make an exact copy of the Tucker, out of respect for his labor and his originality.

I simply have an acquaintance (a nurse) who wanted a holster for her Glock, . . . and I really thought that one made in a similar pattern would probably suit her needs fairly good, . . . and still not reflect against Tucker's legal rights.

May God bless,

Dwight

[smalltown]

Thank you all for the kind words.Hey Dwight in my holster I used 1 piece of 8/9 oz leather for the flap which is holding up well.I would like to add that I am a big fan of Mr. Tucker's work and believe his designs are very functional, which should always be priority in a holster.That being said my attempt is not an exact copy of his design merely my interpretation of it.I can only hope Mr Tucker would be flattered at my humble attempt to clone his design.As I stated in the beginning of my post this is my personal holster and will not be mass produced.Oh and Dwight don't be so suprised at the fact that a nurse is requesting a holster it's more common than you think(I just happen to be a nurse).

Smalltown

[olliesrevenge]

"...my attempt is not an exact copy of his design merely my interpretation of it"

Exactly, I totally agree. I mean, in order to make an "exact copy" you'd have to break into Tuckers shop and steal his clicker dies for the design. Just for the record I wasn't trying to get on your case (Heck - I made an HF-1 style holster) I was just passing along the scoop that apparently Tucker supposedly can get sensitive about "his" copyright.

Ever since I got that friendly PM from the gentleman in the holster biz I have been wondering about the copyright issue as it pertains to holsters. Exactly what constitutes an attempt to "copy" a design anyway? Using the same general design that attaches to the belt in the same general way? If you consider how to attach an "envelope" style holster to your belt, as best I can figure there are only about three basic ways...

1. A single tunnel style belt loop like an old west holster uses.
2. A tunnel style belt loop on the inside of the holster and another belt loop in the rear flap portion where the envelope is sewn together (like the Avenger design).
3. A separate flap of leather extending to the front of the holster for the purpose of forming the front belt support loop - & another belt loop in the rear flap portion (like the HF - 1 design)

I understand that every once in awhile there comes along a truly innovative design that the creator might want to protect. But to try to presume ownership of a very general and basic method of attaching a holster to the outside of a belt (if indeed that is Mr Tuckers stance) seems a bit irrational to me (of course I'm no lawyer). If anyone has knowledge of case law that has set precedent here I'd love to hear it.

Cheers

Edited April 2, 2010 by olliesrevenge

[Denster]

As a general rule anyone can sue anybody over anything all it takes is money, lots of money, and a lawyer. Whether the case would have merit and generate a recovery is another story. In this case the burden of proof would be on the person filing the action. That being said it also takes a lot of money to defend against a lawsuit whether it has merit or not. Generally the only ones who win are the attorneys.

I don't know of anyone, other than Tucker, commercially making that style of holster. Probably because it really isn't a good idea. The only thing it accomplishes, in my view, is to make a thicker holster that is harder to conceal. It does nothing that a regular avenger style allready accomplishes. Just my opinion YMMV.