Leather Jack Mugs

[Blackleaf]

Hello

New to the forum....

I am looking for patterns for All Leather Jacks (Mugs) like are sold at Williamsburg. I have been making nonhistorical leather mugs since 95, and would like to move my mugs more toward the historical market.

Sincerely

Morgan Shea

Blackleaf Leather

[King's X]

Make it with Leather published a story on Williamsburg many moons ago and inside the magazine there was a pattern for such mug along with a pattern for wooden plug. Send me a PM and I can see if I can locate the issue for you? I know that one of our guild members wanted the same pattern and he may still have my magazine.

[Luke Hatley]

Hello there. Web Search sunken ships- Mary Rose this might lead you to where you want to go.

if not there are the Bottels & Black Jacks Mugs that were on the bottom of the ocean floor

that you can see what you are wanting to copy. hope this helps.

[Blackleaf]

I have the wooden forms to build the bodies to stretch the leather over and the wooden dies to form the leather bottom. I'm just having trouble figuring how best totemplate the leather itself over a slightly bell shaped pice of wood. I thought if I looked at som other templates it might put me in the right direction.

Thanks

Morgan Shea

PS. What's a PM?

[Luke Hatley]

I have the wooden forms to build the bodies to stretch the leather over and the wooden dies to form the leather bottom. I'm just having trouble figuring how best totemplate the leather itself over a slightly bell shaped pice of wood. I thought if I looked at som other templates it might put me in the right direction.

Thanks

Morgan Shea

PS. What's a PM?............PERSONAL MESSAGE.........

THE MUG BOTTOM IS LARGER THAN THE TOP....STRECH THE LEATHER AROUND THE TEMPLATE AND

WHEN IT IS DRY....KNOCK IT OUT....THEN PUT THE BOTTON IN AND SEW....

[Blackleaf]

"THE MUG BOTTOM IS LARGER THAN THE TOP....STRECH THE LEATHER AROUND THE TEMPLATE AND

WHEN IT IS DRY....KNOCK IT OUT....THEN PUT THE BOTTON IN AND SEW...."

That much I get and can easily do... it is the initial figuring out of the measurements (top middle bottom), and how to configure the handle on either end of the leather (so it can be sewn) and still come out right when stretched over the form. I know it is just a mental block on spacial relations. It is going to mean more prototypes than I hoped for. I forget how many I made back in 95 when i did my initial jump into mugs.

Cheers

MorganShea

http://BlackLeafLeather.com

[Luke Hatley]

"THE MUG BOTTOM IS LARGER THAN THE TOP....STRECH THE LEATHER AROUND THE TEMPLATE AND

WHEN IT IS DRY....KNOCK IT OUT....THEN PUT THE BOTTON IN AND SEW...."

That much I get and can easily do... it is the initial figuring out of the measurements (top middle bottom), and how to configure the handle on either end of the leather (so it can be sewn) and still come out right when stretched over the form. I know it is just a mental block on spacial relations. It is going to mean more prototypes than I hoped for. I forget how many I made back in 95 when i did my initial jump into mugs.

Cheers

MorganShea

http://BlackLeafLeather.com

Morgan my scanner is not working today i will have it fixed by monday and i will send you a P M of the shape of the Black Jack Mug. If you dont get it before hand.

[Blackleaf]

Measured out another template today, and tried again. This time it was way too big. My guess is that the next one will be quite right. The first prototype was salvagable with the use of a wooden bottom. The second I will probably decontruct and attempt so salvage something out of it.

Cheers

Morgan Shea

Blackleaf Leather

[Blackleaf]

Killed another prototpe this afternoon, but got very close to a working template. I ran into problems towards the bottom of the form. Due to its "bell" shape and flairing at the bottom I am having a hang of a time the leather to stretch down over after sewing the handle and seam. This would all be a non-issue if I would just break down and do a straight walled cylinder styled mug. I've come to the conclusion that I have been trying too hard to cut the leather to a shape that will perfectly fit over the wooden form like a glove. Right now i have the circumferances pretty good... so my next I dea is to leave the leather long. I'm aiming for a 6 inch tall mug. so next instead of cutting a template straight across the bottom I will attempt an arch from handle to handle, widening towards the center of the template to compensate for stretch, and just trim the excess at the top and bottom.

[Blackleaf]

Eureka.... Attempt #4 is a success! A few minoe adjustments, and I'll be in good shape!

[Mujician]

I found this thread through google.I'm interested in making drinking vessels from leather. I have plenty of veg tan to practice with. I just don't have any patterns or templates. can anyone help me out? Or at least let me know some dimensions to make one or two different sizes. What is the best method of putting in the stitching holes - awl or diamond chisel? Does the type of thread matter very much? Many thanks for any help you can offer me.