Breast Collar Tugs - Rivets Or Chicago Screws?

[Hooligan]

When building tugs for breast collars (including tripping collars and martingales), I've seen rivets used to secure the buckle and loops on, and I've also seen fancy Chicago screws used... Why would you use one or the other? Is one stronger than the other?

I guess you'd use Chicago screws incase the buckle broke or you lost a loop...? But isn't there a risk of the Chicago screw backing out or no?

Anyone care to offer their two cents?

[NoahL]

When building tugs for breast collars (including tripping collars and martingales), I've seen rivets used to secure the buckle and loops on, and I've also seen fancy Chicago screws used... Why would you use one or the other? Is one stronger than the other?

I guess you'd use Chicago screws incase the buckle broke or you lost a loop...? But isn't there a risk of the Chicago screw backing out or no?

Anyone care to offer their two cents?

I think it's preference, as well as the ability to remove the buckle and loop if necessary. I used Chicago screws on my dog's collar, and I did have problems with them backing out until it occurred to me that I could Loctite them

[mulepackin]

I personally think Chicago screws should only be used in applications where you plan on removing or exchanging the secured item frequently. Not for an item that "might" need to be replaced.

[dirtclod]

I sew mine.

[Hooligan]

Thanks everyone! I never thought of using Loctite on the screws... That would make sense though, as thats what I use on my conchos! HA!

Think I'll hum and haw some more on this one... Thanks again for your help! Muchly appreciated!

[pete]

for a tripping collar and a breast collar under heavy use- I wouldn't use it myself unless I sewed it and riveted it. That's the last thing that I want to worry about.

pete

[joe59]

Pete and Dirt Clod are right on the money. Sewn or sewn and riveted using a rivet and burr. Also I keep a cheap bottle of nail polish on my bench and in the horse trailer. It works as well as lock Tight and it keeps better and is a lot cheaper.

[hidepounder]

I sew my buckles on and would rivet if I wasn't sewing. I would not use chicago screws in this application. IMHO they are too light and not strong enough for tugs. ESPECIALLY for the center tug! Typically buckles are not changed out on tugs and unless someone specifically requested them I would not use them.

Just my opinion,

Bobby

[MikeCahill]

When building tugs for breast collars (including tripping collars and martingales), I've seen rivets used to secure the buckle and loops on, and I've also seen fancy Chicago screws used... Why would you use one or the other? Is one stronger than the other?

I guess you'd use Chicago screws incase the buckle broke or you lost a loop...? But isn't there a risk of the Chicago screw backing out or no?

Anyone care to offer their two cents?

perhaps I've only ever come across cheap Chicago screws but I wouldn't use them anywhere there was likely to be any serious stress as a belt and braces man, I would stitch or rivet and stitch, if something fails, you buy better hardware next time 'cos it won't be the stitching that failed

cheers

Mike