olroper99 Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Howdy ya'll! I'm looking to buy a heavy stitcher now to go along with my Mach1 and Mitsubishi upohlstery machines. I always wanted a Pearson #6 or something of that ilk...but am seein a good one of them is hard to find up here in Canada. Leightons in Cowgary sell their Mach 3 stitcher for a good chunk of change and I'm about to buy one soon but was wondering what your thoughts are for holding out on an older machine. I know one ol saddle maker back in BC who has an old Landis #3 I think and it sits now while he uses a newer china machine. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! Russ Brewer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Nelson Report post Posted November 30, 2010 Howdy ya'll! I'm looking to buy a heavy stitcher now to go along with my Mach1 and Mitsubishi upohlstery machines. I always wanted a Pearson #6 or something of that ilk...but am seein a good one of them is hard to find up here in Canada. Leightons in Cowgary sell their Mach 3 stitcher for a good chunk of change and I'm about to buy one soon but was wondering what your thoughts are for holding out on an older machine. I know one ol saddle maker back in BC who has an old Landis #3 I think and it sits now while he uses a newer china machine. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! Landis 3's are good if they are in good condition, Seen some awesome work done on Champion's, Pearson 6, Union lock, Campbell and Randalls. I have a luberto's Classic that does a really good job and have a Cobra 4 that is a good machine too. NOT ALL CHINESE MACHINES ARE CREATED EQUAL, NOR ARE ALL OF THEM SET UP THE SAME! Just my opinion. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) Howdy ya'll! I'm looking to buy a heavy stitcher now to go along with my Mach1 and Mitsubishi upohlstery machines. I always wanted a Pearson #6 or something of that ilk...but am seein a good one of them is hard to find up here in Canada. Leightons in Cowgary sell their Mach 3 stitcher for a good chunk of change and I'm about to buy one soon but was wondering what your thoughts are for holding out on an older machine. I know one ol saddle maker back in BC who has an old Landis #3 I think and it sits now while he uses a newer china machine. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! Russ Brewer Buy the #3 Landis he has sitting, if the guy doesn't want an arm and a leg for it. It is about the best you will get. You should keep and eye on the Kijiji.ca site. You missed a Juki 441 last week the guy only wanted 2500 for it. Edited November 30, 2010 by busted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olroper99 Report post Posted December 14, 2010 Thanks for the offer but you are too far away and that's a little steep for me right now. Russ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ1935 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Hi Russ It depends on what you are going to use the machine for. We have a #6 and also bought a new 441 Clone last year. The Pearson will still out -sew the 441 when it comes to the real heavy stuff whereas the 441 is handy for the long haul repetitive work. And yes, the 441's are not all created equal - do your homework first!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olroper99 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Hi Russ It depends on what you are going to use the machine for. We have a #6 and also bought a new 441 Clone last year. The Pearson will still out -sew the 441 when it comes to the real heavy stuff whereas the 441 is handy for the long haul repetitive work. And yes, the 441's are not all created equal - do your homework first!! Thx DJ....I am doing my homework and am learning at the same time. I've found two old Landis #1 machines that are pretty affordable but don't want them as they are bottom feeders....not great for doing shearlings on saddle skirts etc. I have a bottom feeder right now and am not pleased with it. I did talk to the old saddlemaker about his Landis...it is for sale but he told me not to buy it ...said I'd be happier with a new machine. He teaches saddle making and has a couple of newer machines that he is very happy with. Says they are very versatile and parts ore easy to get. Russ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve mason Report post Posted December 15, 2010 here is a pearson for sale in halifax pearson 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olroper99 Report post Posted December 15, 2010 Steve...that same machine is for sale here on this site. Too far away from me.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steadybrook Report post Posted December 18, 2010 I can ship the Pearson for $350 across Canada. Steve...that same machine is for sale here on this site. Too far away from me.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saddlebag Report post Posted December 20, 2010 I bo't my Union Shoe (identical to Pearson) from Jack Leighton almost 10 years ago, with the huge flywheel and treadle. With the micrometer setting I can refleece saddle skirts precisely in the original holes. The machine is awesome. The Nova Scotia machine is a bargain even with shipping. What's great with Jack is should I need a part or advise he can find it or make it and is very helpful. Whatever machine Jack is selling it's because he's a machinist and believes in the product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olroper99 Report post Posted December 20, 2010 His name is John...at least that's what he says on his webpage. I also have a very strong machinists background and understand machinery better than a lot of folks. Umm...I just bought the same machine John sells for nearly $1000 less...and it has an upgraded servo motor with more power. I asked him about a servo motor for my Mach1 and was informed that I didn't need it...that if the clutch was setup right on my machine it would sew as slow as I wanted. That's almost true....it does sew slow sometimes.....but likes to burst into hi speed at the worst times.....like on a bridal right near a tight corner etc. I've ruined enough things on that machine now. I've built several cnc machines myself and understand the benefits of true servo motors and modern technology. Yep...I agree...that machine out east is a good deal....but I'm not buying anything sight unseen anymore. Been burned before. If it was close enough to look at...I'd own it already. Russ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullrope braider Report post Posted January 23, 2011 Landis 3's are good if they are in good condition, Seen some awesome work done on Champion's, Pearson 6, Union lock, Campbell and Randalls. I have a luberto's Classic that does a really good job and have a Cobra 4 that is a good machine too. NOT ALL CHINESE MACHINES ARE CREATED EQUAL, NOR ARE ALL OF THEM SET UP THE SAME! Just my opinion. Ken Hey Ken, How's the saddle makin business treatin you? what are you using the Cobra 4 for mainly, I'm getting back into leather again and we have a Cobra 4 on hold with Steve for my business. I thought about a class 18 just for chap projects but decided I need to sew heavier stuff here N there so the Cobra machine is my choice. I'm sewing the leather wear strips on the bull ropes when ordered by the customer and it just takes too long, this machine will be a huge time saver for me. take care, John http:www.jwebullropes.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tat2 Report post Posted March 24, 2011 Cobra is a Chinese copied model correct? I need to clarify as some of my customer and asking about my thoughts on them and i have none other to buy Adler. I see the set up looks verymuch like the Adler 205-64. Anyone have info on Cobra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neelsaddlery Report post Posted March 29, 2011 The Cobra Class 4 is a clone of the Juki 441 series machines. Originally made by Nakajima in Japan, and then relabelled to Juki after Juki bought out Nakajima a while back. There are a lot of sellers of these 441 clone machines out on the market now. Cowboy, Cobra, Artisan, Sew Pro, Leightons, Consew, and many others sell the machine now. The biggest difference amongst all the sellers of the machines is what they offer in the way of parts, customer service, warranty, and price. The machines are all of very good quality. You will need to call and talk with all of the major sellers of the machines to see what they offer in the way of the points I mentioned above. Hope this is of some help to you. Cobra is a Chinese copied model correct? I need to clarify as some of my customer and asking about my thoughts on them and i have none other to buy Adler. I see the set up looks verymuch like the Adler 205-64. Anyone have info on Cobra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
