cowcamp Report post Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) Hello folks I'm in south Texas and have recently come across this machine while tearing down a barn. Is was locked up and a barn post was using part of the base for a pier lol. I can find no marks on it other then numbers on parts when I was tearing it down After a full day and half of tlc it works. However the piece that connects to the pressed foot Rod on the back was or did break off when I took it apart. I think its a landis but not sure I'm going to use it to sew girts and chaps and would like to find a few parts that didn't do so well the shuttle, bobbin, and bobbin case are shot ThAnks so much Edited December 29, 2010 by cowcamp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGGUNDOCTOR Report post Posted December 29, 2010 If you don't have a good flash try setting a table lamp in front of it with the shade off. or use a drop light to illuminate the front. The picture is really dark, and fuzzy. With a light in the background the camera stops down, and gives you a darker picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bdt46 Report post Posted December 29, 2010 The picture is really dark, but it looks like the head of a LANDIS#1 Harness Stitcher. They are a threaded needle, bottom feed, machine. They were some of the first harness stitchers and are really old. Parts and needles are really hard to find unless you luck out and find someone who has one for parts. Good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted December 29, 2010 (edited) That is a Landis #1 minus the wax pot and stand. This phone number (217 543 3464) is the gentleman that bought out Landis when it folded he lives in Illinois. When you get the machine setup it will sew 7/8" material without breathing hard. The largest thrdead it will sew with is a Linen #7 cord with needle size 280 or 300 Schmetz 331LR and it will sew with a 138 thread also. DO NOT use nylon thread on this machine it stretches really bad. Use the linen or polyester. This link is for the needles [- Strima -] - sewing machines, cutting, fusing, ironning devices. Movies, auctions, e-shop. - Products I think it works. Good luck with your new machine it is very nice stitcher. It is around 110 years old. Edited December 29, 2010 by busted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowcamp Report post Posted December 31, 2010 Thanks so much for the info busted really makes me smile I talked to eli for a second Only need the shuttle and bobbin holder and possibly the pressed tension piece that mounts to the square rod that runs through the machine and then learn how to thread it lol But I'm looking forward to using it on some girth and saddles I'm starting now I won't have to hand sew em Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Hello folks I'm in south Texas and have recently come across this machine while tearing down a barn. Is was locked up and a barn post was using part of the base for a pier lol. I can find no marks on it other then numbers on parts when I was tearing it down After a full day and half of tlc it works. However the piece that connects to the pressed foot Rod on the back was or did break off when I took it apart. I think its a landis but not sure I'm going to use it to sew girts and chaps and would like to find a few parts that didn't do so well the shuttle, bobbin, and bobbin case are shot ThAnks so much This is what your machine looks like when it is all together. I don't know if you can make out the thread path or not. There is a flat piece of spring steel on top of the machine actually it is two pieces of spring steel screwed tightly together. Almost forgot to tell ya' the thread goes between the two pieces of steel. You should WD40 it and run some 400 weight sand paper through it before you put thread in it; this is the thread tension. The thread continues to the left there are 3 rollers that the thread rides through. I think you can see them in the picture next to the needle guide and down to the needle eye. This thing makes an awsome stitch when you get it set up and running. Don't make any "adjustments" to it before you sew with it. Hope this is some help. Edited January 2, 2011 by busted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowcamp Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Well ok i was able to salvage the bobbin and shuttle and shuttle slide. thanks for the help with the threading i think i figured out the bobbin threading though its alottabit different then my singer and consew both of witch are no more then 50 years old. i got it all cleaned up and runnin and the needle that was in it made it through 3 stitches before it decided that the time in the dirt was more then it could bare couple more questions if you dont mind will a half horse electric motor run this machine its low geared out of a winch that was busted. minor bit of MacGyverin and i can hook it up. I used some leather to tighten up the shuttle in the slide is that ok or is the small spring piece required still is there a chance in all of creation of finding a manual for this thing saw where someone said there was one on the smithsonian website but under what subject or title any answers will keep me from extending this post any more lol thanks again guys and if ever in south texas around San Antonio yall got a friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted January 2, 2011 Well ok i was able to salvage the bobbin and shuttle and shuttle slide. thanks for the help with the threading i think i figured out the bobbin threading though its alottabit different then my singer and consew both of witch are no more then 50 years old. i got it all cleaned up and runnin and the needle that was in it made it through 3 stitches before it decided that the time in the dirt was more then it could bare couple more questions if you dont mind will a half horse electric motor run this machine its low geared out of a winch that was busted. minor bit of MacGyverin and i can hook it up. I used some leather to tighten up the shuttle in the slide is that ok or is the small spring piece required still is there a chance in all of creation of finding a manual for this thing saw where someone said there was one on the smithsonian website but under what subject or title any answers will keep me from extending this post any more lol thanks again guys and if ever in south texas around San Antonio yall got a friend What direction were you turning the hand crank? I hope it was to the right. If not you were running the thing backwards. If you put the bobbin in the shuttle backwards and try to sew with it that will break a needle too. There are two pieces of leather in side the shuttle. One in the left hand corner with a screw through it and the other is on the right side with another screw through that also. The leather is 9 oz. it takes up the slack inside the shuttle to keep the critter close to the side of the throat so it can catch the loop once it is formed. There is a flat spring in there too. One end of the spring is screwed behind the piece of leather that is on the right side. What shape are the bobbins in? The small screw on the end of the shuttle are left handed threads for the tension on the bobbin. There is a tiny spring inside there too. If there is no needle guide installed you will probably break needles. This guide keeps the needle in the center of the needle plate. You need to see where the needle is striking when it goes through the needle plate too. It should be in the middle of the hole. If it isn't have someone weld the hole shut with TIG and make a new one. I will shut up for now. Keep tinkering you will get it running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catskin Report post Posted January 2, 2011 I am just poking my nose in here in hopes it might help. While I don't have a Landis #1 I know of 2 and both owners told me they use Peirson needles in these machines. So if you have trouble getting needles this might be worth looking into even if it took a bit of adjusting to make them work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites