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Seller refuses to refund my money. Says she had no problems & the horn is tight & the seat sits even. Guess I will be trying to sell it for parts if the leather is nice enough.

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PLEASE-E-E-E-E pursue getting your money back from PayPay and doing whatever is needed to notify eBay!!! I am a seller and buyer on eBay and truly believe in the "FEEDBACK" system that is in place. Most dealers work hard to keep a "100% positive" rating because that is their main sort of pedigree attesting to their products, service and integrity. Again....please do everything possible to get your money back, and file a claim. With all postings, I always give an accurate and honest description of the item......if you were'nt advised the saddle was "bent" or out of alignment.....YOU DO HAVE A LEGITIMATE CLAIM and should receive your money back (including shipping)!

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i dont see how that seat could possibly sit even with the cantle being as crooked as that...have you tried measuring each side to see how far off it is?

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I purchased the saddle from a seller who advertised with horseclicks. You can see in the ad below the seller guaranteed it is "safe and tight." I will get the saddle Tuesday and will take photos and send a copy of the ad to paypal. I will also give it a thorough once or twice over to see if it is as crooked as it looks in the photos.

When I e-mailed her a second time giving her a chance before I open a dispute with paypal, she stated "the tree is not crooked or broken. I had it checked by a saddle shop and checked it myself."

Since she refuses to work with me, I am most def. going to go through paypal to get a refund. The more I look at the pics, the more upset I become. If for some reason paypal does not get my money back I am stuck with a saddle I can't even use. Other than the crookedness, it is a decent looking saddle IMO.

http://www.horseclic...saddles/5b37h2/

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Angles on pictures can make things look off that aren't and straight that aren't. I would suggest you wait till you get the saddle and check it out really well before you make any more moves.

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Angles on pictures can make things look off that aren't and straight that aren't. I would suggest you wait till you get the saddle and check it out really well before you make any more moves.

This is true. I'm just really in panic mode here just from looking at the photos. I will check it over first and if I have any doubt, will take it to the local saddle shop for another set of eyes and hands to check it for me. Might do that anyway. She swears there was absolutely no problems with it and that she put about 150 hours of riding time on it. Said she wouldn't think of selling it if it fit the horse she has now. Whether it turns out to be perfectly safe and sound, or as crooked as it looks in the photos, I am still on the hunt for a good vintage western saddle. If it checks out "bad" then I will take action.

Thank you Denise for calming me down LOL!

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"She said she wouldn't think of selling it if it fit thehorse she has now." Maybe it doesn't fit because it's CROOKED. but since it's on it's way wait til you get it and then document the crookedness in some way or get a professional to evaluate it for you. Hopefully it's just the angle in the pics, but it sure looks off to me. Good luck with it. Chris

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"She said she wouldn't think of selling it if it fit thehorse she has now." Maybe it doesn't fit because it's CROOKED. but since it's on it's way wait til you get it and then document the crookedness in some way or get a professional to evaluate it for you. Hopefully it's just the angle in the pics, but it sure looks off to me. Good luck with it. Chris

It actually occured to me that the pics of the saddle on the horse, the one the saddle is on in the pics, were taken with a tush cushion. This has been quite frustrating. Either way, I probably won't keep it because of the angle of the seat itself. I have a gaited horse and need my legs to be under me & relaxed. This saddle might put them forward, causing her & me to work harder to keep her in a proper gait.

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From what I am seeing, the horn is a little off. If it's tight then it's a cosmetic issue. As for the cantle I'm not seeing a problem there either. You can't go by the cheyenne rool and it's just leather folded and fitted to the curve of the seat. They are often not quite perfect.

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It is hard to tell from the pictures but the fleece does not appear to be real. Also did you inquire about the tree? Is it a rawhide covered, fiber glass or raliade (plastic) ? Also, the saddle may be "hand made" but it does not look to be anything more than "hand assembled". In my humble opinion, judging by the style and the little I can see in the pictures, the saddle does not look to be fifty years old. I could be wrong, but the screw in conchos did not come into style until the seventies. The horn may have been replaced as was the practice when dalley roping became popular but it does not appear to be the style of fifty years ago. The stitch length on the Chyenne roll appears to be more along the lines of mass produced saddles of the very late sixties and seventies. More pictures of the saddle, may help to determine the age. Compare it to pictures from old saddle catalogs from the fifties through the eighties.

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