3arrows Report post Posted May 15, 2008 I'm restoring a barrel saddle for one of my customers, an old Martha Josey 15 1/2" racer. I need to replace the sheepskin on it, it now has synthetic on it and it worn out. I dont know why it was repaired with cheap synthetic fleece, but anyway , thats another discussion we can have over beers one day. I have bought the sheepskin to replace it, have disassembled the saddle skirts,etc., cleaned the old junk fleece off of the skirts, glued the sheepskin on, and am now ready to finish up the sewing job. Since this is my first attempt to do this type of job, Im practicing on an old saddle that I have that is my practice saddle (screw up my own stuff before i screw up a customer's). My question is, when I use my awl and a lock stitch to sew on the sheepskin, I have to keep coming back and tighten up the loops since the skeepskin is keeping the loops from tightening up right away, I guess it take a while for the thread to compress the fleece. Is the lock stitch the right stitch to use or should I be using a two needle "saddle stitch" (aka from Al Stohlman's Art of Handsewing Leather book)?? I also have a sewing machine, but didnt think it would work sewing the thick sheepskin, seems like it would get hung in the walking foot. As usual, any help will be greatly appreciated as I learn the proper methods of doing these types of simple repairs., thanks ron.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Cornelius Report post Posted May 15, 2008 The correct way is to use the two needle method. Use plenty of wax on the thread so to make sure you lock your stitches good. Good luck, I would never sew skirts by hand. My old hands would not take it. Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3arrows Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Thanks Randy, Im learning as fast as I can, and help is always appreciated. Do you use a sewing machine to sew yours? how do you keep the fur from jamming the feet on the machine?? thanks ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyKnight Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Try your sewing machine on some scraps that is close to the project. If you just have a dog feed you may have to help it along a little. My machines are needle feed plus the dogs so have no issue sewing skirts. Otherwise use 2 needles and an awl. have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raftert Report post Posted May 16, 2008 Ron, Use the two needle method of sewing, but remember on your waxed thread burnish the thread with a brown paper sack to keep the wool fibers from grabbing the thread and pulling through and clogging your awl holes. Tim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3arrows Report post Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) I tried my sewing machine and it seems to work ok, My machine is limited because of the bed and throat size. I am tryiny to learn the two needle "Saddle stitch" method. My problem is finding the hole from the fleece side of the saddle. Is there an easy way to do this? The fleece is so thick i cant easily find the thread or the hole to punch back through. Obviously the leather/saddle side is easy enough. Any good hints about how to do this, or is this just one of those things that takes a while to get the "feel" of?? thanks ron.. By the Way, Andy great web site,,,great layout and content, really good info. Check out my web site: http://www.3arrowstack.com Edited May 16, 2008 by 3arrows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyKnight Report post Posted May 16, 2008 when i shand stitch the backside of something that I can't see ...push the awl through and place the needle on the awl blade where it protrudes and as you pull the awl out cause the needle to follow it into the hole. It works but it will take practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3arrows Report post Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) Im on it,thanks for the tip. And hey, this is much easier. Other than the small amount of blood on the sheepskin, from poking a hole in my finger while trying to follow the awl blade through, its working great. This is a much easier method than the "Search and poke" method..thanks Andy, I owe you a cold one!!! ron Edited May 16, 2008 by 3arrows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skip Report post Posted May 16, 2008 rather than using an awl to follow through from the sheepskin side try using the other needle, if you are using the two needle system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwc Report post Posted June 18, 2008 This is one place my Tipman works very well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites