buffalobill plus Ed D Report post Posted February 27, 2011 Pros and cons ? Any reason why would i pick one over the other one? Cost?....Reliability?...Replacement parts?...Trouble shooting?....User friendly?...and so on... Thank you ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buffalobill plus Ed D Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Im curious on these 2 big machines which is the superior,easier to use, cost used and new. These are suppose to be the cats butt (lol) of harness machines or so ive been told any input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted February 28, 2011 I would gladly take either of those machines! Cost isn't much different between them and they both are capable of sewing 3/4" of material, with a really big needle and thick thread. Both the Adler 205 and Juki 441 sell/sold new for around the $4k - 5K mark. Parts are expensive, but last for decades. The Adler parts were made in Germany, while the Juki is produced in Japan. There are North American parts distributors for both companies. You can expect to pay more for feet, throat plates and replacement gears for these machines than regular industrial machines. Needles are the huge system 7x3 / 794, available up to #27 or larger. Both can sew #415 bonded thread. Both need a truck to transport them assembled, or a real station wagon with air shocks, if disassembled. The feed dog on both is compound feed, with the needle and inside foot moving together, while the outside foot lifts or descends, to hold the material in place. Top speed is 800 stitches per minute, but 600 is safer for the manually oiled bearings. Most leather workers gear these machines way down to about 120 stitches per minute; 2 per second. This extends the lifespan and makes it easier to sew through thick leather, bioplastic, or briefcases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
