I Have A Question On A Glue Issue.

[dragonspit]

As I was purchasing my supplies for my latest project which is a Bible cover. In lieu of the normal contact glue that you get with your tandy kit lets say. I bought a can of rubber cement. I didnt see the normal stuff on the shelf and its not that I didnt want to ask, I just didnt think it would matter much. So I bought this can of Tandy, (tanners bond) rubber cement. I didnt note the words tanner bond, or would have ask the store guy. so I have cut all my leather, I did all my tooling and before I punched for the lacing Im going to do, I decided to glue in a liner, so I could trim it the next day and punch all the holes all the way through. so I get home really late, and I run the glue process. I note during this that odor of this particular glue, is rather strong. I was a little unprepared. so I finished the job (keep in mind, I work away from home so Im just renting a room and do all my work in there), I notice the odor is lingering quite a bit, so I open the windows more, turn on a fan and end up moving my piece outside to a covered porch. By morning my room is ok, and I figure hmm, hope that odor doesnt stay with the piece or i just ruined a piece of leather. the work time I didnt mind, its just more practice, but I hate ruining a good piece of leather. so at this point I can still smell a fairly strong glue odor when holding the leather and liner close to me, really sniffing it. My question, will this go away or do I just scrap this before I waste my lace on it at as well. I mean, it wasnt that much glue but it sure is strong of odor. I have a few other details I can take care of so I can let it sit another day, but after that, I need to make a decision to go forward, or scrap it.

does anyone have comments on this that has run into it before?

thanks for any comments.

Bob

[whinewine]

As I was purchasing my supplies for my latest project which is a Bible cover. In lieu of the normal contact glue that you get with your tandy kit lets say. I bought a can of rubber cement. I didnt see the normal stuff on the shelf and its not that I didnt want to ask, I just didnt think it would matter much. So I bought this can of Tandy, (tanners bond) rubber cement. I didnt note the words tanner bond, or would have ask the store guy. so I have cut all my leather, I did all my tooling and before I punched for the lacing Im going to do, I decided to glue in a liner, so I could trim it the next day and punch all the holes all the way through. so I get home really late, and I run the glue process. I note during this that odor of this particular glue, is rather strong. I was a little unprepared. so I finished the job (keep in mind, I work away from home so Im just renting a room and do all my work in there), I notice the odor is lingering quite a bit, so I open the windows more, turn on a fan and end up moving my piece outside to a covered porch. By morning my room is ok, and I figure hmm, hope that odor doesnt stay with the piece or i just ruined a piece of leather. the work time I didnt mind, its just more practice, but I hate ruining a good piece of leather. so at this point I can still smell a fairly strong glue odor when holding the leather and liner close to me, really sniffing it. My question, will this go away or do I just scrap this before I waste my lace on it at as well. I mean, it wasnt that much glue but it sure is strong of odor. I have a few other details I can take care of so I can let it sit another day, but after that, I need to make a decision to go forward, or scrap it.

does anyone have comments on this that has run into it before?

thanks for any comments.

Bob

I'm not going to comment on the odor, as I rarely use rubber cement, but I will note that rubber cement is used primarily if things are to be taken apart (as in temporarily gluing leather to a piece of cardboard, plastic or whatever to prevent stretching while tooling...). If you want a permanent bond, you'll need contact cement or the white, water-based leathercraft cement - which is also a contact cement. The words 'tanners bond' really mean nothing-- [like: 'JUMBO shrimp', or 'NEW, Improved taste' (vs the 'OLD, BAD taste'????), or 'Window Washers' Water- now with H₂O']

The big question is: how permanent will the bond between the piece & the liner need to be? Something that will be flexed regularly will need to maintain a good bond, vs something, like a mouse pad, perhaps, could get by with rubber cement...

[bootsmt]

I use to use a certain rubber cent on my boots untill they changed the formula and it smells terrible. The oder never went away. If you want to save your pieces take them apart, use a blow dryer to warm the glue and pull the pieces apart. You can get a grit cleaning stick, this is rubber crepe used to clean sanding belts, at the hardware store and rub off the glue. If there is still some smell left try a light sanding. Try rubbing the crepe one way on the leather, it may take some time but it will come off. Frank

[dragonspit]

thanks for the info guys.

well, today you cant smell it from the leather side, yesterday very much so. so its disapating rapidly. I think Im still going to pull the liner off, scrape off what I can and redo the liner. the lining material was not expensive and I have plenty. as long the leather doesnt hold the smell, and it doesnt seem to be, then I think its all salvageable and I can move on. Lesson learned, and I aint opening that can again.

[Johnny B]

I always use Weldwood gel contact cement. I use cheap brushes and brush it on. It goes and stays exactly where I want it and after drying no odor at all. When I am putting the two parts together I lay wax paper over the one side then lay the other side on top. I align the two parts together and slide out the wax paper. Then I use a laminate roller to roll out the glue to get good adhesion.

I get perfect alignment of parts. Good solid adhesion, and finally, no odor.

[electrathon]

Rubber cement= temporary bond

Contact cement= permanent bond

BUT- The rubber cement Tandy is selling is NOT rubber cement, but is contact cement. I don't know why they have done this. If you open the can it separates like contact, it looks like contact, it smells like contact and it holds like contact. The smell will dissipate with time. Normally I would say you messed up using the wrong glue, but in this case you accidentally used the correct one. I have a couple cans and it is actually a very strong, permanent glue.

Aaron